Mon
Feb 15 2010
09:31 am
By: R. Neal
How will President Obama be remembered on future President's Days? More like Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton?
Seems like before we were fighting against unnecessary wars, against corporate and government corruption, and against social injustice.
Now it seems like we're fighting for jobs, for health care, for economic justice and a better standard of living for families and working people.
So there's that.
But we still have the unnecessary war, the corporate and government corruption, and social injustice.
And we're still fighting. Against the same adversaries, except now on different battlegrounds. And everybody's losing.
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Bill Clinton
My vote is for a repeat of the Clinton years. A Democratic administration pursuing Republican lite policies only to be denounced by Republicans as staging a socialist - fascist take over of "real" America.
Let's hope it doesn't end with the election of another completely ignorant zealot with an itchy trigger finger...
More like Carter, I hope
Carter only made it through one term, but at least he didn't get NAFTA passed, end Welfare As We Know It,© or continuously bomb Iraq.
But I doubt that he'll even be as good as Ford, under whom domestic spending increased faster than military spending.
A. Now it seems like we're
Of course, A and B are related.
neither
Other than Polk,history does not have much to say about one term presidents.And I believe the relevancy of Carter's one term,over the course of time,will become dimmer & dimmer.
In the not too distant future..will this be the history test question..that Clinton is remembered for?
Which president or presidents were impeached?
A.Andrew Johnson
B.Bill Clinton
C.Richard Nixon
Plus Bill & Hillary Clinton will have the interesting
story of Bill being elected president & Hillary making
a creditable run for for it.
However,one term or not,history will always reflect that Barrack Obama was our first black president.
And that historical fact will be significant until
President Obama becomes one of many black presidents.
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A Will Smith presidency would
A Will Smith presidency would at least bring real dogs into the White House.
Sadly, I'm getting the
Sadly, I'm getting the feeling that Obama accomplished everything he wanted to accomplish on Nov. 4 2008.
See, here's the thing.
See, here's the thing. Though his first year has not been without error, I think President Obama is still trying to accomplish exactly what he said he'd do. Evidence to me is the fact that he has both the far left and the far right either disappointed or apoplectic right now. If you listened to what he actually said during the campaign and what he wrote in the books he's published, the guy is a centrist and pragmatist, with vaguely liberal tendencies. It seems however, that his charisma allowed or encouraged people to project their own hopes and fears upon him. Because the left was so excited that he is decidedly not George Bush, they seem to have believed that he would use the new majorities in Congress to ram through a leftist agenda. The far right, now particularly embodied by the Tea Party movement, have convinced themselves largely the same thing.
Because the economy was in free fall when he took the oath of office, Obama did push through an enormous stimulus bill. This certainly got the right charged up on their fears, and I suppose it also got the left to believe in a particular trajectory as well. Meanwhile, within that context, he's tried to move forward on the agenda he was advocating prior to the economic collapse. It's sort of funny to me that Obama is simultaneously criticized for doing nothing and trying to do too much at once, depending on the narrative of the week. Nonetheless, economic conditions will ultimately limit how much of his original agenda can be achieved. Likewise, the continued highly partisan divide makes it very difficult for a centrist to bring opposing sides together around pragmatic responses to current conditions.
Putting Congress in the driver's seat for the healthcare bill was actually part of Obama not being George Bush and therefore recognizing Congress as a coequal branch of government. Unfortunately, partisan rancor made a mess of that, so that ended up as a mistake. I think the President's current approach of taking on the Republicans directly by calling their bluff and asking them to lay their cards on the table may end up being transformative. If he is able to break the Republicans' unity and move a few moderates off of 'no,' he'll actually be able to implement some of his centrist agenda over the next year. That won't make either extreme happy, but centrist action is actually what the true majority in this country wants.
To sum, the notion that President Obama isn't accomplishing anything is a myth. Really it's just that he's not accomplishing what partisan advocates wanted. Ultimately, I think his legacy may hinge on whether he is successful at diffusing all this partisan nonsense that's gripped the country for too long. If he can re-awaken the majority at the center, that's what will put this president in the history books.
Somebody
Well said.
I agree that partisan rancor upset the apple cart on the health care reform bill.And with no Republican votes,in order to pass a health reform bill,the bill had to be fillibuster proof.
That forced the President & the Senate Democratic leadership to cut deals to hold all 60 members of the Democratic Senate Caucus.
And like the old adage "Laws are like saugages:It's best not to see them made."..voters did not like seeing the deals cut to make the health care bill a law.
And the voters of Massachusetts,not liking what they had seen,elected a Republican senator.
And that killed the fillibuster proof health care reform bill.
The President was busy being the President..& he ignored the Massachusetts senate race until it was too late & it bit him on the ass.
The President was sooooo close to passing historic health care reform..& that's what disappointed me.
Somebody,I agree with your post.Well written.
And I really believe Obama can win in 2012.