They get treated like anybody else who takes a position? Some people don't like it and take issue with their position? KV doesn't have the power to really hurt people.

It will be a great move forward in this issue when the day arrives that positions and ideas are debated as opposed to the present norm of personal attacks. I look forward to that day.

BTW, I'm not "lock step" in line with either the "pro" or "anti" faction, and nothing has "happened" to me yet, except for a few people calling me names.

Frankly, you would be a perfect example of one who gets personally ripped every time someone objects to an idea you have put on the board. The people ripping you just usually happen to be different than the people ripping me, but, lets face it, it's the same thing. With a subject that is both intellectually challenging on several levels as well as emotionally charged it is far easier to attack the messengers than debate and (gasp!!!!) compromise on the issues at hand. I think that is why this issue hasn't moved and also think that no one really wants to tackle it until after the November elections.

Look, it's hard for me to respect a group that feels the need to hide its membership. If you're gonna engage in civic activities, you have to be willing to say who you are.

Again, so much of this whole process is done in secrecy, and there are so many "amazing coincidences", I almost think I'm numb to this argument. That being said, I agree with you in principle. I think everything about this process should be transparent and on the table, including the names of those engaged in the debate.

This isn't a game. It's about real lives, both those of the chronically homeless and those of the people who live in the neighborhoods where PSH is proposed.

On this point, we're in total agreement. And on that note I'm happy to report that I continued my on site inventory check of the local greenways today and I'm happy to report that it looks like hooking Flennikan into the Blount county greenway system should be a piece of cake. Maryville Pike appears to be wide enough for a bike lane and there is an access point to the Alcoa greenway just north of Pellissippi Parkway. This would allow access to both jobs and recreation for the formerly homeless. The more I study and the more I investigate and actually check out sites and logistics, the more convinced I am that this can work. Then, of course, I read these threads and the media accounts and I'm convinced that the cause may be hopeless simply because no one is willing to concede anything. We are allowing ourselves to be defined by our problems rather than by our solutions.

"There is simply no other explanation for his bizarre, irrational, and totally self-aggrandizing behavior."

I don't get that. I'm no expert but what I've seen is a plan that constantly changes and homeless numbers that keep going up. Problem is, it looks like we have much less homeless than last year. Drive by KARM any evening and you do not see the crowd you did last year. So how can the numbers be increasing?

I think Peabody and his group are determined to find out what is true. You have to admit when they won't let Jon Lawler talk any more that looks very suspicious. The whole thing looks like a cover up.

Looks to me like another citizen's group trying to question their government. Maybe a little smarter than previous groups, the not revealing the membership seems to be driving some people crazy.

I might be wrong, but I think the Ten Year Plan is dead. Like a opossum that has been run over it is scampering into the woods, but it is dead opossum walking.