Scoobie blames bad advice for devastating defeat

Wed

Oct 3 2007

05:06 pm

By: R. Neal

"Just say you don't remember anything about whatever it is they're talking about. Trust me. I'm a lawyer."

UPDATE: Another troublemaker here (scroll down to "Monkey Business" and click on the image).

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Hey, that's SoKno's serious

Submitted by Factchecker on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 7:19pm.

Hey, that's SoKno's serious news journal that keeps the sunshine laws from being violated! Just hunt past the "Battle of the Seymour Bands" on the first few pages and find where the 9th District county bidness is mentioned (hint: it's not just at a used car dealership). If you have any questions or "inputs" after that (heh), call your commish then.

You gotta problem with that process?

I gather you were talking

Submitted by R. Neal on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 9:34pm.

I gather you were talking about this process?

Pinkston defended the committee’s work, arguing that the members’ names were printed in a weekly newspaper that circulates in South Knoxville.

“The citizens could contact them and tell them what they wanted them to do,” he said.

Asked if commission rules barred public debate at the Jan. 31 meeting, Pinkston responded, “It sure did, and I believe the (state) constitution says that’s what we’re supposed to do.”

You had me buffooned there for a minute.

(Good catch.)

WHAT are you people talking

Submitted by Bbeanster on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 9:49pm.

WHAT are you people talking about?
Batboy GOT appointed, and is serving in the 2nd Commission District.

I sat behind him in court Tuesday afternoon while the jury was reporting. He squeaks and moans and jerks and twitches. Amazing to behold.

Batboy GOT appointedOh, I

Submitted by R. Neal on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 9:57pm.

Batboy GOT appointed

Oh, I must have gotten BatBoy confused with RatBoy.

A monkey of a different color

Submitted by Tao4Now on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 12:15am.

Factchecker:Hey, that's SoKno's serious news journal that keeps the sunshine laws from being violated!

I think our collective leg is being pulled.

Actually, we were the only media reporting on the Clark/Pinkston replacement committee plan at the time. And we did try to attend their deliberations. We not only interviewed every committee member, but lobbied each of them to allow us to be present during their deliberations. No joy.

So we showed up where and when they were originally scheduled to meet. Only they'd gotten wind of it and changed venue. Not our finest hour.

We were subpoenaed to testify at the trial, but weren't called.

Original stories here (link...) and here (link...) .

So we showed up where and

Submitted by Rachel on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 10:00am.

So we showed up where and when they were originally scheduled to meet. Only they'd gotten wind of it and changed venue. Not our finest hour.

More like not their finest hour.

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

A missing element

Submitted by Russ on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 8:26pm.

This picture would be complete if BatBoy were standing in the background.

~Russ

Heh. I was tempted.

Submitted by R. Neal on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 8:30pm.

Heh. I was tempted.

You're pulling our legs

Submitted by Pickens on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 8:45pm.

You're pulling our legs about BatBoy, right?

I thought I saw BatBoy working the crowd to be a new appointee to commission as the verdict came down. Thus, he couldn't have been in the picture.

Come on, guys

Submitted by WhitesCreek on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 8:44pm.

Don't make fun of Bat Boy....He's real, I tell you! And, and, a friend of mine. And he can't really fly but he does make sqeaking noises and eat bugs...I swear.

update...Hey wait...That guy on the right...He's a friend of Bat Boy, too!

Hey Albert, It's me!

Love that photo!

Submitted by Carole Borges on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 9:01pm.

It made me remember what an idiot Gonzalez was.

"Ok one more two step, then

Submitted by jbr on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 9:12pm.

"Ok one more two step, then I gotta go to Bi-Lo and make some political appointments."

Sigh. OK, dammit:

Submitted by R. Neal on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 9:13pm.

Sigh. OK, dammit:

I think I see a campaign

Submitted by Andy Axel on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 9:18pm.

I think I see a campaign management opportunity for Hornback.

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Respect mah authoritah!

Brilliance. Sheer,

Submitted by Russ on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 10:26pm.

Brilliance. Sheer, unadulterated brilliance.

And I don't think it's "R. Larry BatBoy." I'm pretty sure it's "BatBoy Lambert."

~Russ

Nope. 2nd District--

Submitted by Bbeanster on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 10:30pm.

Nope.
2nd District--

PZT

Submitted by Russ on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 10:32pm.

I may just have to post about BatBoy's involvement on the Psychozilla Tribune.

~Russ

I dunno. Batboy's grasp of

Submitted by Rachel on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 10:35pm.

I dunno. Batboy's grasp of English is about the same as Scoobie's.

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

Hey, wait

Submitted by Sandra Clark on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 9:47pm.

The Halls Shopper has NOT endorsed R. Larry Batboy.

There's that unsightly ear thing ... and those teeth!

Yuck. -- s.

Oh, sorry. I thought I heard

Submitted by R. Neal on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 9:54pm.

The Halls Shopper has NOT endorsed R. Larry Batboy.

Oh, sorry. I thought I heard BatBoy was the slam dunk favorite of the "tabloid girls."

(Heh. Don't hit me!)

It's the dialect?

Submitted by Up Goose Creek on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 11:15pm.

Whatever one feels about Scoobie, one must admit that his dialect is similar to many of his constituents.
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On the stand last week,

Submitted by Bbeanster on Wed, 2007/10/03 - 11:20pm.

On the stand last week, Scoob explained "That's the way we talk in Halls." Several constituents cringed.

Dialect

Submitted by Joe328 on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 9:29am.

What is the correct dialect for English? Should we use the northeast dialect, which is a mix of English, French, German, Italian, and Irish. Maybe the Southeast dialect, which is mostly English and Spanish. The deep South is English, French, and Spanish. Since we live in East Tennessee, should we consider the English, Scotch, and Irish mixed dialect correct? The citizens of the City of Boston, which has a dialect of there own, maybe the only ones who have a proper English dialect.

Correct dialect

Submitted by Rachel on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 10:03am.

Look, I love regional accents and expressions. But it's still embarrasing when the chairman of your County Commission says things like "they's been a lot of damage done" or "it buffons me." The first is just bad grammar; I don't know what the heck the second one is. It's sure not regional.

Although I guess I should be used to being embarrased by my "leaders"; the President said the other day that "our childrens is learning." (Yes, he really did manage to screw that up again.)

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

Buffoon not buffon

Submitted by Joe328 on Fri, 2007/10/05 - 9:09am.

Only in the United States do you find people who think of one language, one accent. We forced the native Americans to stop speaking their language and adopt the english language.

Just who wrote the book on correct grammar, and how were they elected the grammar police for the United States? This country still had isolated regions in the 1900's when all of the sudden one region decided that everyone should speak their dialect of english.

I can remember visiting friends and relatives of my father in the late 1950s and early 1960s, who lived in mountains of Sevier County. The dialect was so different, that only my father could understand what was being said, and he sometimes had trouble. This isolated region of Scottish and English may have been the last dialect of proper english because of their isolation. When the Smoky Mountains became popular area, the news media made jokes about the local dialect, which embarrassed the locals into adopting a new dialect and customs. Today, Sevier County is like most any town in the United States, which the tourist are noticing and not returning as they did in years past.

Throughout the world languages such as, Spanish, French, English, and Russian have several dialects which are so different, they are considered a different language.

Just how far should we take being different is wrong? Should we require all men to wear one style suit in brown and blue. Require the women to wear one style dress in pink and white. How about one color and make for cars, one color for houses, one color for businesses, and one color government buildings. Since we need to know who can't speak our dialect of english correctly, maybe we should mark homes, business, and cars for new immigrants, we could avoid anyone who didn't understand our dialect.

Since you want to be the grammar police, try using a dictionary, which was written by the grammar police. It's spelled "buffoon" not "buffon" according to Webster.

I know my grammar is poor, and I try everyday to improve, but people like you do little to encourage others.

Buffoon

Submitted by Rachel on Fri, 2007/10/05 - 11:03am.

Whoops, sometimes my typing gest ahead of my brain (see, it happened again).

Actually, the "buffoon" thing is just funny, and taken by itself would be the kind of embarrasing thing we all do now and then.

Taken with much of the other stuff out of Scoobie's mouth, it's apparent he has little command of standard English. Me, I think a county commissioner should do better. Your mileage may vary.

And the remainder of your message is classic "strawman." Are you related to #9?

P.S. Your grammar sounds perfectly fine to me.
"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

Even though I've taught English for years, I agree

Submitted by Carole Borges on Sat, 2007/10/06 - 5:56am.

Regional language is wonderful. It's tasty to the ears. It gives one a sense of textures and even of flora and fauna.

When I hear someone from the South speak with a thick drawling accent, I see rolling hills with green fields, I smell hay or magnolias. I hear lonely-sounding train whistles speeding along metal tracks.

If they are from Boston, I see the glittering gold Capitol dome and the tree-lined centerstrip down Commonwealth Avenue. I smell the ocean.

If they're from Mexico I see crowded markets and small pastel churches. I smell the musk of a jungle floor and blue wood smoke fires swirling around pole huts. I hear surf rolling under moonlit skies and maharchi bands.

Personally I can't bear the whole we-want-everythng-to-be-the-same-everywhere mentality. So much is lost. And the violence and hurt it takes (if people only realized it) to stifle a soul in order to create a uniform world would be enough to make anyone sick.

I remember the first customer I waited on after I'd moved from Chicago to Memphis. I was a teenager behind the counter in a Kresge's store. The woman looked right at me, gave me a big smile, and said, "I'll have those ear bobs over yonder, Baby. And please put them in a sack for me."

"Huh?" I had no clue. Didn't sack mean something soft made out of cloth, something large like a coal or like Santa Claus' bag? And ear bobs? Now what the heck were they?

I've always found that whole exchange delicious and delightful. Language is like song. Life would be pretty boring if we all were singing the same tune all the time.

You guys are talking about

Submitted by newscoma on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 5:26am.

You guys are talking about BatBoy?
Oh, nevermind.

I went to skool in Halls.

Submitted by Hoseman19 on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 6:44am.

I went to skool in Halls. And Roy Mullins, see he wuz my principul, sed we cain't hep it if we talk thatta way. Somethin about breedin, but I don't know whut farmin has to dew wit tawlkin. And we all know Roy is plum-up smart, hes got himself runnin all them skools.

Roy is very smart. He taught

Submitted by Bbeanster on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 6:50am.

Roy is very smart. He taught my younger siblings at Gibbs, and they thought the world of him.

In fact, Brother John thought enough of Roy to immortalize him on the LeRoy Mercer tapes.

Roy is a great man. The

Submitted by Hoseman19 on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 7:47am.

Roy is a great man. The School Board should save the taxpayers a chunk of money and put Roy in as supt. But that is an issue for a different thread.

I miss his humor

Submitted by Average Guy on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 10:44am.

I didn't know your brother, but he's been making me laugh for over 15 years. I've lost my tapes, but everynow and again, I hear something that makes my head hear his voice.

Mr. Neal is getting close to that humor with his awesome photoshop work seen here. Keep it up R. Neal.

And to the Knox County commision, I'll quote your brother myself in saying; "So There, by God." As youth may be on this site, I'll end it there.

I gather you were talking

Submitted by Factchecker on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 8:29am.

I gather you were talking about this process?
...
I think our collective leg is being pulled.

Yeah, I was. Didn't know we had a representative from the Skstimes here. Guess they really do have someone doing serious journalism! Good for them. I'll start trying to remember to read past the front page.

Only they'd gotten wind of it and changed venue. Not our finest hour.

That shouldn't have reflected on you. Sounds like just more damning evidence that the process was being intentionally skirted.

Horseshoes and hand grenades

Submitted by Tao4Now on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 11:41am.

Factchecker: That shouldn't have reflected on you. Sounds like just more damning evidence that the process was being intentionally skirted.

Maybe so, but I still consider it a downtick. I was sure the KNS was going to pick up on our previous week's story, and we go to press late Monday nights, which meant we would street the same day of the appointments meeting. Our goal was to at least have the names of the nominees submitted to the commissioners, if not the committee's recommendation. In that we failed.

Turned out the KNS only gave a one-line mention to the process we'd outlined, which still left us with an okay story, but well short of where we wanted it to be. Bottom line was, we didn't get what we were after. We don't do "hard" news often, and it's important that we do a thorough job when we do.

If I didn't own the paper, I'd have fired me.

One thing you can't deny,

Submitted by Hoseman19 on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 11:14am.

One thing you can't deny, those two sure do have pretty hair.

Buffoons

Submitted by Up Goose Creek on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 11:34am.

I love the phrase "it buffoons me". I interpret it to mean "I am awestruck (at the ridiculousness)"

I wish that that were Scoobie's only legacy.

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Less is the new More - Karrie Jacobs

My interpretation is that

Submitted by Rachel on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 11:37am.

My interpretation is that Scoobie doesn't know the difference between "baffle" and "buffoon." Gee, they both start with b....

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones." - John Maynard Keynes

ah-ight now

Submitted by SammySkull on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 4:13pm.

Come on, give the guy credit for more than the B, the double F would throw anyone. Even us smart folk here could get buffooned once in whall.

Takin up 4 the Chair

Submitted by bill young on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 1:12pm.

I will not vote for Scott Moore in next year's election.

However,the comments made yesterday by Chairman Moore was a sincere statement of contrition.

However,the comments made

Submitted by Simply Ridiculous on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 2:38pm.

However,the comments made yesterday by Chairman Moore was a sincere statement of contrition.

I have to disagree with you Bill. I know Scott Moore, and as late as yesterday he continued to state (on WBIR.com) that he didn't do any "deal-making". Scott Moore has a looong way to go to prove, especially to those who know him, that he is sincere.

When I think of an honest, decent public servant I think of someone who has their own beliefs and ideas, is elected based on those beliefs and ideas, and does whatever they can do to see those through - with honesty and sincerity. NOT by calling in favors for jobs or perks, NOT by scandalously appointing friends who might in the future be of benefit, NOT by smearing other people's names in the media purely for personal gain, and NOT by running around the CC building making threats to "ruin" (his words) people when they cross him.

He is not what most people would consider to be a "good person", nor a "good friend", nor a "good commissioner". I truly believe that he is out for Scott Moore and whoever else might be able to help him get by in life. He has treated a lot of people very badly, and his ongoing arrogance about his "position" has now ticked so many people off I can't imagine him being elected to anything anytime soon. I guess the old adage is true: you make your bed, you lie in it.

fair enough

Submitted by bill young on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 2:56pm.

The Chairman sure looks "crushed in spirt" to me & I saw "remorse" about this whole mess.But I dont know him..you do..so fair enough if you disagree.

We will see what the remedy is...& go from there.

I clearly don't have the

Submitted by Lobster on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 5:25pm.

I clearly don't have the high expectations that many do for local officials. They don't have to speak eloquently, or be a rocket scientist in the other county job they probably hold. I really only ask 2 things....be sharp enough to understand the basics of the job, and be honest. If I was hiring someone to work for me, dealing with my own business finances, I'd want someone reasonably capable and someone I could trust. It's that simple.

The County Commission is entrusted with handling the taxpayers money. It's sometimes hard to ascertain just how competent the candidates are, but above all else, we have to demand honesty. Would I trust Scoobie Moore with the loose change from a bubble gum machine? No. Lumpy? No. Chucky Bolus? No. Lee Tramel? Not just no, but HELL NO!

Qualifications

Submitted by Up Goose Creek on Thu, 2007/10/04 - 6:16pm.

Well put, SR. But I disagree with this:

I think a public srevant's duty is to carry out the will of his/her constituents. There may be occasional instances of great moral values overriding the constituents (Lyndon Johnson on Civil rights for example) but on day to day matters it is the representative's job to represent.

Lobster, I agree with your good, more basic expectations.

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Submitted by cafkia on Fri, 2007/10/05 - 9:17am.

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It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.
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Buffoon is a real word

Submitted by Hoseman19 on Sat, 2007/10/06 - 8:15pm.

I looked it up on an online dictionary, here is their definition:

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
buf·foon /bəˈfun/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[buh-foon] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a person who amuses others by tricks, jokes, odd gestures and postures, etc.
2. a person given to coarse or undignified joking.

[Origin: 1540–50; earlier buffon < F < It buffone, equiv. to buff- (expressive base; cf. buffa puff of breath, buffare to puff, puff up one's checks) + -one agent suffix ≪ L -ō, acc. -ōnem]

—Related forms
buf·foon·er·y /bəˈfunəri/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[buh-foo-nuh-ree] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, noun
buf·foon·ish, adjective

—Synonyms 1. jester, clown, fool. 2. boor.

I did not think it was a real word, but there it is.

Before it becomes lost to history - what was it that bufooned Scooby in the first place?

P.S. beautiful imagery, Carole.

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