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An Appalachian Blogger
Submitted by rocketsquirrel on Mon, 2008/05/12 - 3:19pm.
An Appalachian blogger properly chastens urban progressives over at Daily Kos. An excellent read and perspective on progress in our own southern mountains.
Make sure to scan some of the more than 604 comments.
If you can find people like that in Indiana and Pennsylvania, why not in the Appalachians?
What about the people too embarrassed to reveal their views?
What about the people who are not sophisticated enough to recognize the true source of their animosity?
Quote from the article:
"Here's the worst: In Muncie, a factory town in the east-central part of Indiana, Ross and her cohorts were soliciting support for Obama at malls, on street corners and in a Wal-Mart parking lot, and they ran into "a horrible response," as Ross put it, a level of anti-black sentiment that none of them had anticipated.
"The first person I encountered was like, 'I'll never vote for a black person,' " recalled Ross, who is white and just turned 20. "People just weren't receptive." "
And it gets worse.
These people need to be routed and shamed. No wonder their regions of the country are dying.
Do you think that people simply want to hate them?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 2008/05/13 - 8:58pm.
I live in WV and have a college degree and an IQ of 150. I live on the Ohio river and not in a coal town. Believe it or not, we have cable TV, high-speed internet, newspapers, libraries, universities, and better education than Ohio. I research a lot of things said in an election and make my decisions the way I make other decisions about other people. Do they do what they say they will do? Do they say the same thing or change it to fit the audience. I think that a lot of liberals and progressives are pushing us to a socialist country and I want nothing of that. It is easy to see what is happening in France and the rest of Europe with that kind of society. Refusing to believe that there is no moral authority is wrong and stupid if you are trying to keep our county strong and lasting 200 more years. BHO has changed his stand on many issues like the war, foreign policy, and many others. Research a little, you know-it-alls, and find out you are not right on many subjects. The problem with WV is that Democrats have RULED it forever. We now have a dem governor, 2 dem senators, and only one Republican Congressperson. The state legislture is run by dems. In my work, I have met many folks transferred here from HOuston, California, Colorado, and NJ. One thing most say is that the kind of people here in this valley are the most honest and friendlist they've met anywhere in the world.
It must suck to be on the wrong side of the times. The GOP is doomed this fall. Losing three special elections in red districts, and with Bob Barr siphoning off disaffected Republicans, Obama will romp McCain in November and the Democrats will have about 58 Senate seats and 250 House seats. Yeah, then you'll see your "socialist" country. Heh heh.
One thing most say is that the kind of people here in this valley are the most honest and friendlist they've met anywhere in the world.
I do have to say that the people I have met in my business dealings in WV do truly meet this description. As with my business dealings in North Dakota, I am usually a little surprised with how they find such smart (technology wise) people in the rural, low population areas.
Wanna know why the population is so old?
Young people leave as soon as possible.
Why?
Lack of opportunities and granny's fundie church rolling up the streets at night.
Wanna know why the population is so white?
Racism. Plain and simple. I know whereof I speak.
Why?
Fear of "outsiders".
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson
Wanna know why the population is so white?
Racism. Plain and simple.
Umm, no. We can argue about whether the population is racist or not, but it's not predominately white because of racism.
It's predominately white because of settlement patterns, which are tied to all kinds of cultural, economic, and geographical circumstances.
One reason there are few black people in east Tennessee, for example, is that you couldn't have plantations in the mountains. You had little need for slaves. And the folks who settled here couldn't afford them anyway. My ggggg-grandfather, who died in the mountains of Greene County in 1796, had two. He freed them both in his will.
Well, articles like these say otherwise:
Link...
If you can find people like that in Indiana and Pennsylvania, why not in the Appalachians?
What about the people too embarrassed to reveal their views?
What about the people who are not sophisticated enough to recognize the true source of their animosity?
Quote from the article:
"Here's the worst: In Muncie, a factory town in the east-central part of Indiana, Ross and her cohorts were soliciting support for Obama at malls, on street corners and in a Wal-Mart parking lot, and they ran into "a horrible response," as Ross put it, a level of anti-black sentiment that none of them had anticipated.
"The first person I encountered was like, 'I'll never vote for a black person,' " recalled Ross, who is white and just turned 20. "People just weren't receptive." "
And it gets worse.
These people need to be routed and shamed. No wonder their regions of the country are dying.
Do you think that people simply want to hate them?
I live in WV and have a college degree and an IQ of 150. I live on the Ohio river and not in a coal town. Believe it or not, we have cable TV, high-speed internet, newspapers, libraries, universities, and better education than Ohio. I research a lot of things said in an election and make my decisions the way I make other decisions about other people. Do they do what they say they will do? Do they say the same thing or change it to fit the audience. I think that a lot of liberals and progressives are pushing us to a socialist country and I want nothing of that. It is easy to see what is happening in France and the rest of Europe with that kind of society. Refusing to believe that there is no moral authority is wrong and stupid if you are trying to keep our county strong and lasting 200 more years. BHO has changed his stand on many issues like the war, foreign policy, and many others. Research a little, you know-it-alls, and find out you are not right on many subjects. The problem with WV is that Democrats have RULED it forever. We now have a dem governor, 2 dem senators, and only one Republican Congressperson. The state legislture is run by dems. In my work, I have met many folks transferred here from HOuston, California, Colorado, and NJ. One thing most say is that the kind of people here in this valley are the most honest and friendlist they've met anywhere in the world.
And those honest, friendly people elected Democrats.
Whatta ya know.
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." ~Kurt Vonnegut
It must suck to be on the wrong side of the times. The GOP is doomed this fall. Losing three special elections in red districts, and with Bob Barr siphoning off disaffected Republicans, Obama will romp McCain in November and the Democrats will have about 58 Senate seats and 250 House seats. Yeah, then you'll see your "socialist" country. Heh heh.
I do have to say that the people I have met in my business dealings in WV do truly meet this description. As with my business dealings in North Dakota, I am usually a little surprised with how they find such smart (technology wise) people in the rural, low population areas.
Ex-Klansmen like Robert Byrd... but who's counting.
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"It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?"
Wanna know why the population is so old?
Young people leave as soon as possible.
Why?
Lack of opportunities and granny's fundie church rolling up the streets at night.
Wanna know why the population is so white?
Racism. Plain and simple. I know whereof I speak.
Why?
Fear of "outsiders".
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson
Sounds like Blount County.
Wanna know why the population is so white?
Racism. Plain and simple.
Umm, no. We can argue about whether the population is racist or not, but it's not predominately white because of racism.
It's predominately white because of settlement patterns, which are tied to all kinds of cultural, economic, and geographical circumstances.
One reason there are few black people in east Tennessee, for example, is that you couldn't have plantations in the mountains. You had little need for slaves. And the folks who settled here couldn't afford them anyway. My ggggg-grandfather, who died in the mountains of Greene County in 1796, had two. He freed them both in his will.
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