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Greenpeace protesters arrested in downtown Knoxville
Submitted by R. Neal on Thu, 2008/08/14 - 1:57pm.
According to the KNS, seven protesters were arrested at Kimberly-Clark offices in downtown Knoxville. They are upset about Kleenex and toilet paper destroying forests in Canada.
There was apparently plenty of drama, including three people chained to doors and some ninja action as two women rappelled down the side of a parking garage to hang a sign. Police say they aren't from around here.
Submitted by RayCapps on Thu, 2008/08/14 - 2:11pm.
Police say they aren't from around here.
Ya think?
I'm a fairly conscientious recycler. I've weatherized my condo. I keep it as warm as my wife can stand it in the summer and as cold as my child can stand it in the winter. I even grocery shop with reusable tote bags. But this is where I draw the line. I won't use corn cobs to take care of that necessary function. I won't, I won't, I won't.
Submitted by talidapali on Thu, 2008/08/14 - 3:27pm.
to use corn cobs...but would you pay a little extra for recycled paper products? They do make toilet paper and paper towels from recycled paper and cardboard...they just cost a little more. Is the higher price worth saving a few forests?
_________________________________________________ "You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White" "I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali
Submitted by RayCapps on Fri, 2008/08/15 - 7:15am.
On the all important subject of toilet paper, I must confess I humbly bow before the explicit wishes of She Who Rules in my house. Charmin extra soft is the only product alowed to touch her Royal Behind within Her Domain. I accidently picked up extra strong once and heard about it until the last roll was gone. But more seriously, chaining yourself to doors over nose blow paper and butt wipers is just a tad silly. Isn't it? Just a little?
Can I get a pie recipe too? I'm not a vegan, but substituting the real stuff made that Key Lime actually quite a tasty little pie. But I detest rhubarb. How about a nice one for vine ripe blueberries?
* 4 cups chopped rhubarb
* 3/4 cup all-purpose flour
* 1 1/4 cups white sugar
* 2 (9 inch) unbaked pie crusts
* 1 egg, beaten
DIRECTIONS
1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
2. Pour rhubarb into the prepared pie crust. Combine flour and sugar; sprinkle over the rhubarb in the crust. Cover with top crust making sure to cut 4 steam slots into the top of it. Brush the top with egg.
3. Bake in preheated oven for 30 to 45 minutes.
Seventh Generation Double roll (avail. where Rachel said) is not expensive and plenty soft IMO, once you get used to not being ridiculous about it. I wouldn't go back to Charmin if it were on even terms of not trashing the environment. That stuff is so fluffy that it made a lot of bathroom dust--how good is that? Overkill and rather absurd.
Also I like Sunrise by Marcal Maxi Roll which is a pretty good value at Earth Fare, believe it or not, (hope they do open a store in Bearden and sooner than later). Also Lowes sells Sunrise (believe it or not too) cheaply but in a smaller roll size. Marcal is not as soft as Seventh Gen., but good enough to get the job done just as well.
Submitted by Factchecker on Fri, 2008/08/15 - 7:51am.
I accidently picked up extra strong once and heard about it until the last roll was gone.
I too used to think that TP was something you just couldn't scrimp on. I got over it.
But more seriously, chaining yourself to doors over nose blow paper and butt wipers is just a tad silly. Isn't it? Just a little?
For most people, obviously it is. It depends, though, on how different people react to the sanctity of brand loyalty once they learn what is sacrificed for their pampered noses and asses. To use a slightly different example, don't you think it's a tad silly that we would use styrofoam for a single use plate or cup, then leave the waste as worthless garbage that won't decompose for 10's or 100's of years? Or isn't it silly to burn the sheer amount of fossil energy we do to move our 200 lb. frames around in expensive 2-3 ton metal boxes? Future generations are going to wonder what the hell we were thinking.
I'm going to start a crusade against plastic packaging of all kinds. Wonder how much petroleum we use for that just to use it one time and throw it away? I'm especially pissed off at the hard plastic bubble security packaging that to open requires power tools and usually personal injury so you can get to the product.
Got a bill for stitches paid for, no questions asked, by a major hardware chain when one of those damn packages for a set of drill bits attacked me. They wired me the money after I digitally signed a release online with their lawyers.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Submitted by sugarfatpie on Fri, 2008/08/15 - 8:35am.
Not to distract attention from needless deforestation, but I wholeheartedly applaud an anti-plastic campaign.
Here is a video on the accumulation of plastic in the oceans, especially in a large "gyre" in the northern pacific between Hawaii and California that is becoming increasingly toxic.
Please excuse the "like totally f-ing stupid" lingo of the kids whose punk rock net-tv station financed this.
The brother-in-law (container ship captain) says it shows up on charts now and is a must avoid. He also says that going out there and salvaging floating containers is a business in the waiting.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Submitted by RayCapps on Fri, 2008/08/15 - 10:09am.
if it would put an end to the ridiculous over packaging. As the proud parent of a 7 year old, I've come to dread Christmas time. Garbage bag after garbage bag of cardboard, plastic, and those &^*( wire twisty ties. All for a few bobble heads and Bratz dolls?
Submitted by Johnny Ringo on Fri, 2008/08/15 - 10:55am.
I'm especially pissed off at the hard plastic bubble security packaging that to open requires power tools and usually personal injury so you can get to the product.
Amen. The guy that invented that crap should be placed in stocks on the public square.
Submitted by redmondkr on Fri, 2008/08/15 - 10:50am.
I have some of the big plastic tote boxes that I use for my camping gear. The other day I put one in the truck when I went grocery shopping.
I asked the lady at checkout to just put my checked items into another cart without bags and, when I got to the truck, I transferred all the goodies from the cart to the tote box.
It was more trouble to bring it all into the house but I'm thinking of getting a Radio Flyer (do such things still exist?) to cart it from truck to kitchen.
The other drawback is, how many plastic bags did it take to make the tote box? Of course if you already have one . . .
But Wait!
I can put casters and a pull-rope on the tote box and I won't need the wagon.
Submitted by RayCapps on Fri, 2008/08/15 - 11:00am.
still exist in both of the popular styles. My daughter has the wooden variety with the side posts. I've discovered they also still function very well when tied onto the back of a bicycle. Some toys are timeless. As I recently found out, however, after discovering my old Mattel Football Game and playing it for many enjoyable minutes to my daughter's utter confusion, some aren't.
Submitted by RayCapps on Fri, 2008/08/15 - 11:59am.
Packaging is usually not a choice the production team gets to make, where lower cost would be the overriding concern. A simple cardboard box would beat a clam shell hands down on cost, anyway. It's also doesn't have much of anything to do with shoplifting. The manufacturer would already have sold the product to the retailer and is out nothing if it is stolen. "Shrinkage" as it is euphemistically called, is a retailer's concern rather than the manufacturer's. For what it's worth, packaging is usually a marketing decision. Clam shell's are popular because they show off the product. You get a lovely 3D view of exactly what you're about to buy. It's more appealing to the consumer than a flat, 2D photograph on a cardboard box. Simple as that. That's why this type of packaging is so very popular with products aimed at children.
Ya think?
I'm a fairly conscientious recycler. I've weatherized my condo. I keep it as warm as my wife can stand it in the summer and as cold as my child can stand it in the winter. I even grocery shop with reusable tote bags. But this is where I draw the line. I won't use corn cobs to take care of that necessary function. I won't, I won't, I won't.
to use corn cobs...but would you pay a little extra for recycled paper products? They do make toilet paper and paper towels from recycled paper and cardboard...they just cost a little more. Is the higher price worth saving a few forests?
_________________________________________________
"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"
"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali
They do make toilet paper and paper towels from recycled paper and cardboard
Not too hard to find either. I buy 'em at Fresh Market and/or 3 Rivers Market. Quality is good too.
Soft?
On the all important subject of toilet paper, I must confess I humbly bow before the explicit wishes of She Who Rules in my house. Charmin extra soft is the only product alowed to touch her Royal Behind within Her Domain. I accidently picked up extra strong once and heard about it until the last roll was gone. But more seriously, chaining yourself to doors over nose blow paper and butt wipers is just a tad silly. Isn't it? Just a little?
Can I get a pie recipe too? I'm not a vegan, but substituting the real stuff made that Key Lime actually quite a tasty little pie. But I detest rhubarb. How about a nice one for vine ripe blueberries?
No.
Rhubarb Pie
INGREDIENTS
* 4 cups chopped rhubarb
* 3/4 cup all-purpose flour
* 1 1/4 cups white sugar
* 2 (9 inch) unbaked pie crusts
* 1 egg, beaten
DIRECTIONS
1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
2. Pour rhubarb into the prepared pie crust. Combine flour and sugar; sprinkle over the rhubarb in the crust. Cover with top crust making sure to cut 4 steam slots into the top of it. Brush the top with egg.
3. Bake in preheated oven for 30 to 45 minutes.
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Link...
Seventh Generation Double roll (avail. where Rachel said) is not expensive and plenty soft IMO, once you get used to not being ridiculous about it. I wouldn't go back to Charmin if it were on even terms of not trashing the environment. That stuff is so fluffy that it made a lot of bathroom dust--how good is that? Overkill and rather absurd.
Also I like Sunrise by Marcal Maxi Roll which is a pretty good value at Earth Fare, believe it or not, (hope they do open a store in Bearden and sooner than later). Also Lowes sells Sunrise (believe it or not too) cheaply but in a smaller roll size. Marcal is not as soft as Seventh Gen., but good enough to get the job done just as well.
I learn so much here :-)
I too used to think that TP was something you just couldn't scrimp on. I got over it.
For most people, obviously it is. It depends, though, on how different people react to the sanctity of brand loyalty once they learn what is sacrificed for their pampered noses and asses. To use a slightly different example, don't you think it's a tad silly that we would use styrofoam for a single use plate or cup, then leave the waste as worthless garbage that won't decompose for 10's or 100's of years? Or isn't it silly to burn the sheer amount of fossil energy we do to move our 200 lb. frames around in expensive 2-3 ton metal boxes? Future generations are going to wonder what the hell we were thinking.
I'm going to start a crusade against plastic packaging of all kinds. Wonder how much petroleum we use for that just to use it one time and throw it away? I'm especially pissed off at the hard plastic bubble security packaging that to open requires power tools and usually personal injury so you can get to the product.
Got a bill for stitches paid for, no questions asked, by a major hardware chain when one of those damn packages for a set of drill bits attacked me. They wired me the money after I digitally signed a release online with their lawyers.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
Not to distract attention from needless deforestation, but I wholeheartedly applaud an anti-plastic campaign.
Here is a video on the accumulation of plastic in the oceans, especially in a large "gyre" in the northern pacific between Hawaii and California that is becoming increasingly toxic.
Please excuse the "like totally f-ing stupid" lingo of the kids whose punk rock net-tv station financed this.
Link...
-Sugarfatpie (AKA Alex Pulsipher)
"X-Rays are a hoax."-Lord Kelvin
The brother-in-law (container ship captain) says it shows up on charts now and is a must avoid. He also says that going out there and salvaging floating containers is a business in the waiting.
True happiness is knowing you are a hypocrite. -- Ivor Cutler
if it would put an end to the ridiculous over packaging. As the proud parent of a 7 year old, I've come to dread Christmas time. Garbage bag after garbage bag of cardboard, plastic, and those &^*( wire twisty ties. All for a few bobble heads and Bratz dolls?
I'm especially pissed off at the hard plastic bubble security packaging that to open requires power tools and usually personal injury so you can get to the product.
Amen. The guy that invented that crap should be placed in stocks on the public square.
Argh! Clamshell packaging!
And what's with every children's toy being wired in tighter than a marine firebase during Tet?
I have some of the big plastic tote boxes that I use for my camping gear. The other day I put one in the truck when I went grocery shopping.
I asked the lady at checkout to just put my checked items into another cart without bags and, when I got to the truck, I transferred all the goodies from the cart to the tote box.
It was more trouble to bring it all into the house but I'm thinking of getting a Radio Flyer (do such things still exist?) to cart it from truck to kitchen.
The other drawback is, how many plastic bags did it take to make the tote box? Of course if you already have one . . .
I can put casters and a pull-rope on the tote box and I won't need the wagon.
Visit us at
The Home
still exist in both of the popular styles. My daughter has the wooden variety with the side posts. I've discovered they also still function very well when tied onto the back of a bicycle. Some toys are timeless. As I recently found out, however, after discovering my old Mattel Football Game and playing it for many enjoyable minutes to my daughter's utter confusion, some aren't.
I just looked them up on Google and I want one.
You guys with children have more than one advantage over me. For one thing you have an excuse to play with a wagon in the park.
I could take my Radio Flyer over to Victor Ashe and let Gino pull me around the track - until he saw a squirrel and decided to go "off-roading."
Visit us at
The Home
_________________________________________________
"You can't fix stupid..." ~ Ron White"
"I never said I wasn't a brat..." ~ Talidapali
We've thought one would be nice to cart our older dog around the 'hood on hot days or when her arthritis gets worse.
The dreaded clamshells. Is it a cost of fighting shoplifting? Of course they're also for lowest cost and ease of packaging on their end.
Packaging is usually not a choice the production team gets to make, where lower cost would be the overriding concern. A simple cardboard box would beat a clam shell hands down on cost, anyway. It's also doesn't have much of anything to do with shoplifting. The manufacturer would already have sold the product to the retailer and is out nothing if it is stolen. "Shrinkage" as it is euphemistically called, is a retailer's concern rather than the manufacturer's. For what it's worth, packaging is usually a marketing decision. Clam shell's are popular because they show off the product. You get a lovely 3D view of exactly what you're about to buy. It's more appealing to the consumer than a flat, 2D photograph on a cardboard box. Simple as that. That's why this type of packaging is so very popular with products aimed at children.
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