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Jan 5 2009
06:58 am
By: R. Neal
That's Liberadio(!)'s assessment, in this rundown of possible candidates.
Could be, but Frist dropping out is a gift to Democrats if they can cobble together a state party organization (as opposed to a Nashville cotillion) and muster up a credible candidate in quick order.
RELATED: The view from Memphis.
PREVIOUSLY: Haslam definitely running: Bill Frist won the Davidson GOP straw poll, racking up 59% v. Bill Haslam's 5%. Marsha Blackburn came in second with 25%. Zack Wamp scored a big fat zero.
AND: First clue.
UPDATE: The KNS reports that Haslam has retained Lamar Alexander's former campaign coordinator.
RELATED: Katie Allison Granju says Haslam is like Obama, except in a "Tennessee-friendly package."
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Nice guys dont always finish last
Looks like the Mayor is in the race & got a real shot @ being elected governor.
There's no doubt in my mind that the Mayor will work very hard in the next 20 months to get nominated & I dont mean work at it with bread & circuses that money can buy but really get down to talking to folks in the hamlets & crossroads.
The Mayor is right when he says you dont get elected in TN by simply throwing your own money around.One reason is we dont like it.The other is nobody is invested in your campaign.Those $10 contributions gets folks behind you.
The thing about the Mayor is he fools people.You hear about his family name & money..so one expects a cocky rich boy.He's not.Then after meeting him one thinks he doesnt have the mettle to mix it up.He does.
The biggest deal about the Mayor is that he wants to get things done for the people.I know that sounds sappy but it's true & thats what comes thru clear as a bell..Bill Haslam is in this race to make Tn a better place.
Bill Haslam is nice guy that doesnt finish last.
Biggest Drawback to Haslam's candidacy is he's from Knoxville
The last guys from Knoxville selected for Governor were William Blount and then John Sevier and since that time, nobody from Knoxville has been elected governor and only a handful have tried.
Part of the problem is the simplistic political ways of the Knoxville community don't lend themselves to statewide politics (ask Jimmy Duncan about a statewide race) and the multitude of issues which affect the state as a whole.
For years, the TVA issues in Knoxville didn't amount to a hill of beans in Memphis or in Nashville. However, the recent struggles within the City of Knoxville should equip Billy Haslam and sensitize him to a number of issues which are faced across the state. As more and more homegrown Tennessee businesses, banks, and media outlets are bought up by out of state congomerates, the political landscape (unlike the economic landscape)is not tilted in favor of any particular candidate from any geographic reason.
He will have access to the Republican apparatus/tools/techniques of a number of Republican statewide office holders, particularly Fred Thompson, Bill Frist, Bob Corker, Howard Baker, and Lamar Alexander, although they will not provide an endorsement until very late in the primary or at the begining of the general election.
The balance he will bring to the Republican side of the process will be well received and he will be given the opportunity to see for himself what Tennessee is all about.
Tennessee is a better place with Billy Halsam in the race and Tennessee will be a better place with him as Governor, if he can carry his value structure to Nashville, implement it statewide, such that the state can survive, adapt, and thrive for the next 50.
There is one more candidate
and that is Lt. Governor Ron Ramsey. In fact, he's at the top of the list for the GOP, in his opinion, offered in today's Greeneville Sun:
Taking a page out of the
Taking a page out of the Republicans play book, Tennessee does not need a Republican Governor, a majority Republican Senate and a majority Republican House.
I think Bill Haslam is a
I think Bill Haslam is a very decent guy who has, on the whole, been a very good mayor. He's by far the best of the Republican lot running for governor.
But Obama he's not. He's a social conservative (although, like Reagan, he probably won't spend a lot of political capital on those kinds of issues).
I can't see myself voting for him at state level. The differences in our politics, which don't matter much when you're dealing with local issues, WILL matter at the state level.
KAG
Her post is very good.Only bone I would pick is that most voters in Tn dont live in big cities & dont care much about them.
I worked in two big city mayor's campaigns Tyree & Fulton.Folks in Morristown didn't give a rat's ass about bringing a World's Fair to town or how cool Music City was.
Bredesen is the exception for big city mayors getting elected & he learned the hard way..got beat in '94.Ran alot different in '02.
I'm just saying adds featuring downtown Knoxville wont work because voters dont want their burg to be a big city.
If I was in the Haslam campaign I would strongly suggest filming & taking pictures @ every stop in small town Tn.
Then splice them together in a montage of I get it tv/web adds.Plus other than stock newspaper adds in small town papers I would put pictures of Bill in that town.
Let's see what his Republican (Howard Baker) prop will be
Howard Baker's prop was his signature/name, Lamar Alexander had the plaid shirt/plaid signs, Fred Thompson had the Red Truck, Bill Frist had the Flag Tie, I don't think billy haslam's prop will be a yellow/red Pilot Oil shirt or hat, particularly since gas went up 21 cents today.
Maybe Haslam's prop will a freshly minted Chevy from Spring Hill, Tennessee, passing out brochure's about Knoxville's ocnvention center. Who knows.
gas went up 21 cents
gas went up 21 cents today
They gotta fund the campaign somehow!
Best of a bad lot
I don't vote for Republicans as a matter of principle. But Bill Haslam would be acceptable as Governor. I wouldn't vote for him, but I wouldn't loathe the man and be embarrassed of him.
The other GOP tools are worthless. Zach Wamp is a jerk. I know nothing about Gibbons. Ramsey is useless. Blackburn is the devil. So, if it's Haslam, I'll be cool with it.
Downtown Knoxville can be a plus
Knoxville isn't seen by most as some sort of opressive big-city (You'd have to subtract CHR whack-jobs complaining about the liquor vote) and most people generally like the improvements. He ought to showcase it. He's been a great mayor and would make a good governor.
Knoxville isn't seen by most
This is true, but the flip side is that in a lot of places, especially the surrounding counties, Knoxville is seen as a town of snobs and white collar elitists. And that's probably due to the general dislike of urban and suburban areas by those in rural areas everywhere. That dislike has nothing to do with Mayor Haslam, but it could still hurt him.
Most other communities view Knoxville as a clannish little town
With an elitist class which can be quickly spotted at various venues around West Knoxville and the rest of the sorted lot of citizens which want to be a part of that elitist clan and a number of neuvo-elitist clans which tend to open up and operate their own schools and churches along the way, again all in West Knoxville.
No longer the economic or cultural center of East Tennessee as it once was, Knoxville is a community whose population refuses to invest in itself, as most public-private partnerships, economicly benefit only a select few and provide service/benefit for only a slightly larger group. The economic models in other Tennessee cities, particularly Nashville and Chattanooga, really don't work that way as those communities and their elitist class will invest in their hometown on projects which benefit large blocks of the citizenry and they do not wait on the local government to "pony up" taxpayer dollars for the projects.
Plus
If the Mayor makes his case in small towns with "We did it this way in Knoxville" the voters will tune him out because they think they are being treated like no nuthing hillbillys.Never forget these small town folks know how to get the last laugh..vote for somebody else.
Bredesen did a really smart thing in '02..he spent three consectutive days in small towns all across the state.That way you are not rushed to see everybody in a whirlwind campaign swing.In 3 days you can see about everybody you need to see.
One last thing..will the Knox County Republican Party get behind Haslam in the '10 state Republican primary & push the the turn-out to 50,000+? 40k is norm.
One last thing..will the
That's a good question.
I get the feeling that a lot of political people are making a lot of assumptions about the future political and economic environment that may not be realized.
There's a number of Republicans that think the next two years will be a repeat of Clinton's first term including the 1994 elections.
My advice is: don't bet on that happening. I think that any type of backlash against Pres. Obama that Republicans are hoping will happen will not come to fruition.
And we're probably only half way through the mortgage crisis, which means the economic crisis still has a good ways to go.
It won't turn around in the next six months, and Republicans will have to accept that and deal with it, rather than simply casting themselves as opposing Pres. Obama.
I have yet to see a credible Republican plan to deal with the economy, other than Congressman Duncan's repetition of the word "no," along with the Sen. Corker.
That stuff will work when the crisis is mainly in Wall St., but as the crisis begins to spill over into the general economy, towing the party line will only bring the party base along with you, and it's a diminshed party at that.
Bizarro election
Liberals will settle for Haslam and Conservatives will settle for Lincoln Davis.
Marsha Blackburn could upset the apple cart. I think Wamp will fold. Kim McMillian won't sell well in East Tennessee.
I don't see this as a cake walk for Haslam. Big Jim is on the record supporting an income tax and Bill Haslam is part of the Bloomberg Mayors Against Guns group.
In some ways this may be a perfect storm for Lincoln Davis. Especially if Blackburn sits out.
Gary
I'm thinking more from the ground game persective.Will Knox County Republicans from the sheriff on down to the ward level unite behind Haslam & push the vote for the primary?
My thought is yes they will.I dont know for sure but I think the Mayor's very popular in Knox County Republican circles.
In '82 Knox County Democrats were still fighting the bloody '78 primary between Butcher & Clement.Tyree was from the Butcher faction & Miss Anna Belle is a Clement.So it was hard for there to be a united Democratic front behind Tyree.
Ashe is Ashe & when he ran in '84 for US Senate some Republicans just were not going his way.
We also could not get Democrats around here to get behind Nichols in '02.
OTH I supported Nashville Mayor Dick Fulton for governor in '78 & '86.Both times we lost pretty badly BUT we won Nashville.
Like I said I think Haslam will do fine BUT Knox County sure doesnt have history of rallying around the local boy.
Um...
Will Knox County Republicans from the sheriff on down to the ward level unite behind Haslam & push the vote for the primary?
My thought is yes they will. I don't know for sure but I think the Mayor's very popular in Knox County Republican circles.
Depends who is in the Primary. Against Zach Wamp Bill Haslam should do well in Knox County. How well would he do against Marsha Blackburn? West Knox County is allergic to a state income tax. They have long memories. It is also pro gun area. You have to learn the "yes, but" theory of West Knox County politics.
It goes like this, how do you like Bill Haslam? Oh Bill is a great guy, but...
Ask Tim Burchett about "yes, but". Why do you think Richard Briggs is running for County Mayor?
I'm thinking more from the
I think it depends on the political environment.
If Republicans have a chance at a come-back in 2010 (and I know how the state went, but IMO, that was local politics and part of an Obama backlash)in relation to national offices then Republicans will support whoever seems to be the front runner.
Right now the Republican party, nationally, is in disarray. That will affect the state, especially if the state Republicans are seen as incompetent at handling the state's economy this year, since they'll be in charge. It's a year that will be fraught with more dangers than opportunities for the state GOP.
If there is no chance for the movement to make a comeback, then many of those who would easily choose to ride the wave will be looking out for themselves on an individual, self-interested basis, and that will relegate political support to the horse-trading, "what can you do for me" attitude that will shatter any party unity behind any one candidate.
anybody have a sense of
anybody have a sense of Gibbons, Wamp and Haslam on the sliding scale of conservatism? Haslam sure has been quick to plop federal money on pet projects. Not exactly fiscally conservative. (see Five Points Village, Minvilla, and the $27 million transit center.) Racine, WI, with a larger population, built a transit center in '04 for $4.4 million.
I get so tired of the old "hey if we don't spend it, somebody else will." And while republicans are up in arms over Obama's stimulus package, where were they for the last eight years while George Bush ran us $5 trillion in debt?
$27 million here, $27 million there. It sure adds up quick.
sliding scale of
Yeah, well within the next six months, you may just be writing that as "the sliding of conservatism."
However much conservatives complain about the spending ways of the Obama administration, they're going to have to explain why "conservatism" (ie- deregulation and the lack of governmental intervention leading to huge [and unsustainable] inequalites of wealth distribution, spiraling cost of health care, and job insecurity) has any relevance at all to solving any of the problems we now face.
The Democrats aren't blaming anyone...yet, because they're going to wait until the 2010 elections.
In my opinion, how candidates measure up based on some "scale of conservatism," is going to matter very little, even in a primary, once the analyses expose how we got into this mess.