Our company group plan is coming up for renewal and they have offered to extended it for another year with a slightly higher premium. It is "grandmothered" (their term) and has slightly different benefits than a standard ACA plan. We are thinking of not renewing and dropping our company group plan and instead switching over to a BCBS individual/family plan. (We are the only two employees in our group plan.)

Trying to figure out the variations in premiums, deductibles, co-insurance and maximum out of pocket is a little confusing. So, we made a spreadsheet to do some basic comparisons. It appears we are paying "silver" prices for a "bronze" plan.

The spreadsheet considers two cases. The first case is if one of us requires a major medical treatment. The second considers only treatments under the deductible. It is a basic calculation that does not take into account prescription benefits (which our current plan does not have) or co-pays (which our current plan does not require nor do any of the BCBS plans we looked at).

This helped us figure out the best value for maximum annual out of pocket considering premiums and the other factors. The individual/family plan we are considering is slightly less than our current group plan and has more benefits.

Surprisingly, higher deductibles and co-insurance don't make much difference in the bottom line annual cost, and paying higher premiums for lower deductible/co-insurance might not make sense. Your mileage may vary, of course.

Anyway, below is a link to an "anonymized" version of the spreadsheet (Excel XLSX format) that you can download. It has simple comparisons of a few BCBS plans that show the effect of variations in deductibles, co-insurance, etc.

The out of network and other info is for comparison only and not used in the calculations, which are based only on premiums (for two people), individual deductible, co-insurance and individual max out of pocket for one person.

To customize it for your situation, go to www.bcbst.com, select "shop for plans," select "shop BCBS plans," enter your particulars (no real name required, just date of birth, gender, and tobacco use), pick some plans, and enter the details for premium, deductible, co-insurance and out of pocket in the corresponding spreadsheet columns.

Note: because the ACA enrollment period had ended you will have to declare one of the qualifying events. Ours was "loss of minimum essential coverage" (i.e. dropping our group plan).

I'd appreciate any feedback regarding whether we are looking at this logically (or if there are any errors in our calculations or assumptions).

health_insurance_compare.xlsx

reform4's picture

Gambling

Every time I reviewed plans for our company, higher deductible and copays seemed to be gambling with very little upside (savings on premiums) and LOTS of downside. We ended up with a plan with a reasonable deductible ($1500 to $2000 ea), but 100% coinsurance after that point.

R. Neal's picture

With the max out of pocket

With the max out of pocket limits (which I think are now statutory?) and no caps on claims you are protected on the downside.

The closest "gold" plan we could find to what you described would cost about nearly 50% more per year. If you stay under deductible there's no benefit, just extra cost. If you have a major expense of $50K it might save you about $1000 out of pocket.

Beyond that, all the plans appear to be similar in terms of exposure once you hit the max out of pocket. They all seem to extract about the same amount from your wallet per year, so it looks to be a pay me now or pay me later type of deal.

If you as an employer are wiling to pay the extra premium to reduce your employees' out of pocket, well, you're a saint!

Anyway, it's still too complicated.

Mello's picture

apple-apple-orange-grouse

If every doctor or provider charged the exact same fees for all plans then it would be easier to pick a plan. Even within the same plan two different doctors or providers can charge vastly different prices for the same services.

Then there is some document for each of those plans that further states which drugs they never cover and other odd but important things they don't cover. Even that website which is suppose to compare services dollar for dollar really misses the mark.

And yes, I wish I did not know any of this.

Mary Wilson's picture

The main aspect of any plan: 10 basic medical benefits

Since I worked with all the great volunteers who enrolled folks in plans they could afford, based on their family and income, the one thing I learned is that ALL plans approved by ACA rules MUST cover 10 basic benefits....BCBS was one of the 3 companies that were approved to provide plans that would completely provide these benefits. In fact, this is why Blue Cross had to cancel so many junk and expensive policies because those expensive plans left patients owing thousands for a hospital stay, a surgery, OR cancer treatments, etc.
I would suggest that you contact either KAPA or Cherokee Health (Western Ave) and ask to speak to a CAC or Navigator who can meet with you and advise you on your own situation. This way you can avoid mis-information...like BCBS claim that their new offering is 'grandmothered'...and get the truth.

Up Goose Creek's picture

Health savings account

I chose a HSA account because I can envision a possible scenario where taking the HSA deduction could put me below the limit where I could recieve subsidies.

It should be pretty simple, $3500 deductable, 100% paid after that (in network providers). Except my doctor is not in network. I saved about $1,000 a year by choosing the S plan rather than the more P plan with more doctors. so I should still come out ahead with one or two visits.

I keep hearing this voice, "If you like your doctor you...keep your doctor" and I'm not about to switch. The network did affect my choice of ERs so there's that.

Thanks for the chart, Randy. It looks like two unsubsidised people on my plan would pay $16,700+, so it's not as good a deal as the others.

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