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Jul 1 2015
04:06 pm
By: Sandra Clark
And Tamara is speaking first. She's got five minutes.
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five minutes
Can I have those five minutes back? blah, blah, blah!
MOU adopted
Vote was 6-3 with Carson joining the majority.
CTV?
Always wondered why SB meetings aren't on CTV.
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Greetings from the World's Worst Politician and Largely Irrelevant Data Nerd.
The consensus is that for the next five years--but more likely seven--I am to be zoned for an elementary school one-third of which is housed in 40 year-old trailers and a high school with 900 empty seats.
My property value is to drop and my property taxes are to increase.
Did I mention it appears I'm banned from the SPEAK Facebook page? Which is okay, I guess, if they're still rehashing topics I wrote about three years ago here.
So how's by you?
Mayor Burchett released the
Mayor Burchett released the following statement:
"I am very pleased with the Knox County Board of Education’s approval of the Memorandum of Understanding between Knox County and the school system," said Knox County Mayor Tim Burchett. "This agreement will help to ensure increased fiscal responsibility while also providing for much-needed teacher raises and two new middle schools, all without the need for a tax increase."
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(in reply to R. Neal)
On the east end of the county, we will see a new Gibbs Middle School that will be 1/3 empty in no time. It will pull students from four surrounding middle schools already projected to lose nearly 500 students collectively, prior to being tapped by this new school in search of inhabitants, and it will resegregate Holston Middle. It will also increase the commute time for the area’s residents living closer to our existing middle schools.
On the west end of the county, we will see a new Hardin Valley Middle School to serve 1200 students, located directly next door to and on the same patch of dirt with a high school already able to house those same 1200 students. Although Hardin Valley Academy still has these 1200 empty seats seven years after its construction, it is important that the community should have *two* underutilized facilities for it to “grow into,” as there are many Job Creators tucked away in their myriad cul de sacs.
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Carson shared tonight that a couple of years back she had joined the majority to vote for a new Carter Elementary and "got fooled" by the mayor as to increased funding for schools.
After offering her multiple concerns for the MOU and its Cap Plan at Monday's work session, she again joined the majority tonight to support these same financial priorities about which she had just complained.
But she said she won't be fooled a third time, by golly.
Guv'ment logic
The fix for your leaky sink is to build a new kitchen somewhere else.
Oh, and the new kitchen won't cost you anything, but it will increase the odds we'll be kicking you out of the house we're letting rot.
the coming purge
Wonder where the $1 million in cuts for the MOU will come from? Teachers who have been to the podium at BOE meetings?
(link...)
The non-renewals will continue until moral improves.
"Hallerin never asks me questions..."
(in reply to Jade)
"... we have pastries and coffee."
LOL. Best line.
More school board meeting highlights
Before last night's vote but after Carson announced she would hold her nose and stand with the majority, I just got up and moved to the door, awaiting the inevitable by the closest exit.
Fidgeting there in the doorway with me was a chirpy little wench in a bright blue satin skirt just a smidgen too tight across her ass to keep it from jacking up in the back and stiletto heels just a tad too high to keep her from walking like a Geisha. She was holding a microphone for one of our local TV stations.
We had a brief conversation that went something like this:
Wrinkled old crone: So you're covering this for local media?
Chirpy young wench: Why, yes!
Wrinkled old crone: I have to ask, have you read the Middle School Demand Analysis?
Chirpy young wench: What's that?
Wrinkled old crone: It's the $75K study the BOE commissioned to guide their decision on these requests for two new middle schools. It said they're not needed.
Chirpy young wench: Well, I'm just covering the MOU.
Wrinkled old crone: But you're not able to report on the MOU if you don't know how its proposal compares to the findings of the Middle School Demand Analysis.
Chirpy young wench: Thank you for your input.
And she turned and minced away in short, hobbled steps.
a chirpy little wench in a
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
a chirpy little wench in a bright blue satin skirt just a smidgen too tight across her ass to keep it from jacking up in the back and stiletto heels just a tad too high to keep her from walking like a Geisha.
Good god, Tamara, could you possibly have been more sexist? Would you have felt compelled to give us your opinion on what a young male reporter was wearing? And what the hell does this have to do with the reporter's ability to cover the news?How would you like it if somebody posted a snarky physical description of you on a public website?
If he had been wearing too tight jeans and flip flops...
(in reply to Rachel)
I would have commented on it, as well.
Why?
(in reply to Min)
Why?
**shrug**
(in reply to Hildegard)
Because it would be noteworthy. And I hate flip flops as workplace clothing.
I believe Tamara addressed
(in reply to Rachel)
I believe Tamara addressed her opinion of the reporter's ability by noting her lack of knowledge/interest in the subject matter that was at hand.
Which you'll notice I didn't
(in reply to Bbeanster)
Which you'll notice I didn't complain about. That was germane. The snarky stuff about her appearance was totally unnecessary.
Disagree. The way one chooses
(in reply to Rachel)
Disagree.
The way one chooses to present oneself is relevant, and in this case very consistent with the quality of the work product. It's all of a piece, in this case.
Har har, and yeah whatever.
(in reply to Bbeanster)
Har har, and yeah whatever. There was no point in bringing up the satin ass and heels. This is why people don't take women seriously. They can't criticize their own without sounding like a bunch of pissed off catty old bitches. (Which is what I sound like right now, I guess.)
More to my point, (and sorry if it's OT but things come up during discussions and that's why the blog is designed to allow subtopic discussions), there is a way to dig at TV reporters as vacuous, uncomprehending airheads without resorting to crass remarks about how their skirts fit on their asses. Egad if a man had written that this whole web site would be in flames right now.
But you know I'm sure the public at large reading that will reconsider their reliance on TV correspondence and start tuning in to the more reasoned, nuanced, and dignified online discussions of these important topics, such as we have here.
+100
(in reply to Hildegard)
n/t
Taking women seriously
(in reply to Hildegard)
I always thought that that was because, despite being almost universally discriminated against and having more in common than any other voting bloc, getting them organized and to the polls was like herding cats. Same reason people don't take unions seriously.
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I do have a few more questions for our local media brain trust...
Since the beginning is a very good place to start, and since neither the superintendent nor five members of the BOE started there, has anybody questioned either of these parties on this very first clause in the MOU:
If some local media did not read and are not aware of a Middle School Demand Analysis, may I assume that they are at least aware of TCA 49-1-302(d) establishing statewide LEAs' teacher evaluation models rooted in TVAAS and TCA 49-3-306(h) establishing statewide LEAs' differentiated pay plans (i.e., "merit pay") based on same?
I ask because, obviously, the mayor's willingness to fund a one-time transfer to pay APEX bonuses, even if the expectation is that APEX will soon go away, does NOT relieve KCS of the requirements under law to evaluate teachers using TVAAS, to adopt a different differentiated pay plan if abandoning APEX, and to continue covering the cost of same in its subsequent budgets.
So have any media outlets pointed out to either the superintendent or BOE members or their readers that the mayor's covering differentiated pay in the upcoming fiscal year leaves unanswered the question of how KCS will cover differentiated pay in subsequent years, under what model this pay is to be extended, and who is to create this new model, if the APEX model is, indeed, to be abandoned?
Most importantly, have any media outlets pointed out that this one-time transfer coming from the county to cover APEX bonuses in NO WAY "frees up recurring revenue" with which to fund 2 percent teacher pay raises? Does everybody understand that KCS is still obligated to spend on BOTH types of teacher pay?
I've read every media outlet's coverage on the MOU and I haven't seen one word of reporting on this very first and most glaring of the agreement's multiple fallacies.
Know that strategic pay is required by law.
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I'll remind you, too, that three years ago Kincannon, Buttry, and Carson all three told me they thought that since Nakia Towns had presented the APEX strategic comp plan to them, they thought she had personally created it.
Randy's the one to have discovered it was a boilerplate developed by Battelle for Kids and thrust upon multiple states and I was the one to have filled in the BOE on same.
I'd just about bet this new crop of BOE members doesn't have a clue who's to create the next strategic pay plan--nor even that someone, somewhere, has to create one--either.
After all we've been through on this subject, this level of naiveté is mind boggling.
Expectation of elimination
Tamara -- I expect strategic compensation will be eliminated ... and if it's required by state law, that will be repealed. But promise to research this. One day short this week and on deadline.
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(in reply to Sandra Clark)
*IF* it's required? Dammit, Sandra, it *IS* required, and has been for years.
Just because Burchett offered to cover one year's cost for it with this one-time transfer in NO WAY "free(s) up recurring revenue to enable teachers to receive a raise of approximately 2 percent!" KCS is on the hook for BOTH types of pay!
Sigh. I didn't mean to pick on you specifically and I shouldn't expect local media to provide new BOE members their job training, either.
But some damn body has to train them. They don't know what the flip they're doing.
Moseying back toward the topic
Bean says Tamara is exactly right about the strategic compensation being required by state law. I can see why a board member didn't know that (since I didn't), but can't understand why someone on the superintendent's staff didn't speak up and say funding strategic compensation is NOT a one-time deal.
What now?
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Is this another illegal move from the Superintendent? Is the county on the hook to pay this every year? It sounds like Mayor Burchett got cheated. And the taxpayers too.
Since this is NOT what Mayor Burchett signed on for, does that invalidate the MOU?
These questions are for anyone. It's just that Sandra and Betty might be able to find out by asking the Mayor or the Law Director next week.
This is like that Broad Grant. McIntyre knows this stuff. Why does BOE let this keep happening?
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(in reply to Jade)
Why do you think Mayor Burchett "got cheated?"
It's the school system now on the hook to cover $21M in debt service on a Gibbs Middle School it never indicated it wished to pay for.
It's also the school system now on the hook to pay future strategic comp bonuses AND its regular teacher salaries at amounts 2% higher, in exchange for just this one-time help of $3M toward one year's strategic comp bill. And the school system has to find $1M in cuts, somewhere, in order to get even that.
Every other aspect of this agreement runs in the mayor's favor, not the school system's.
The school system has to move out of the AJ, with Knox County Purchasing acting as The Decider as to its next "amenable site."
The school system must trot quarterly reports to the mayor and the commission identifying "ways and means to reduce education expenditures."
They are also asked to cut "failing" programs, reduce employees, and change class schedules.
They are also asked to submit a written plan to reconstitute their fund balance.
They are given three years to phase out their reading initiative.
They are asked to submit future budgets within revenue projections provided by the Knox County Finance Budget, in other words "don't ask us for any more money."
And, of course, they are locked out of launching their Northcentral Elementary project to the benefit of five school communities for at least these next five years.
The only thing I see in that deal for KCS is a net $2M in one-time monies for teacher raises and a 1200 seat Hardin Valley Middle School (to sit next door to a high school with 1200 empty seats), to be received only at great cost to the BOE's managerial role.
The entire proposal is ludicrous, but it sure looks to me like the school system is the bigger loser, and certainly over time.
You lost!
Bye!
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Rachel, I believe I painted a picture of someone (who happened to be female) who was not, in any manner, a "serious journalist." The conversation I invited was whether "info-tainment" of this sort serves the public well when the purported "journalist" isn't "covering" the topic any better than she is "covering" her ass. Maybe poll Gloria Steinem to see if she agrees with me?
Sandra, I cited the statute mandating LEA's strategic comp plans above, namely TCA 49-3-306(h).
(EDIT: Sandra, that's not the right citation. That one is for differentiated pay plans for hard to staff positions. I'll look up the right one and route it to you.)
Maybe poll Gloria Steinem to
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Maybe poll Gloria Steinem to see if she agrees with me?
If you think it's necessary to snark about somebody's physical appearance as part of a critique of their journalistic skills, then yeah, maybe that's a good idea.
Hold on!
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
As a "serious photojournalist" I am out in the field daily. I run across most of our hard working dedicated serious reporters. She is one of them.
The last time I checked, this was a political blog. Not "trash the reporter blog." Nor is this a "fashion blog."
Sincerely,
Dan Andrews,
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(in reply to danandrews)
Dan, I saw you at Wednesday's meeting, too, and I pick up your employer's newspaper most every week.
I haven't seen any "serious journalism" on this topic from that media outlet, either.
Ever so gently, would you care to share with us whether you read the Middle School Demand Analysis, necessary reading that it is in order to understand how the MOU's proposal compares to the study's findings?
And if you (or a colleague there) did read it, why didn't your employer report on it? As if I didn't know why.
I don't think you want to make any assertions to me about your "serious journalism."
You picked the wrong reporter...
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
First in your lame attempt at "gotcha journalism" I respond with the following...
Yes, I even looked over the report again last night...
Above is a screen shot from my history settings.
As for your comments about my professionalism. I could write a long-winded response like you do. However, I won't. I will simply point to the national Society of Professional Journalists Award for my hashtag project that hangs on my wall. A project which the National Weather Service officially recognizes. Since my work is professional enough for them to recognize me as a "serious reporter" I think I am good.
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(in reply to danandrews)
Glad you read it, Dan. Neither you nor anybody else at the Focus reported on it, though, nor ran any editorial about it.
The KNS reported on the study and ran an editorial opposing Gibbs.
The Shopper reported on the study and Scott Frith wrote an editorial opposing Gibbs.
The Focus did neither. Is that brief enough for you?
Advice
I suspect Tamara's political ambitions are in the past - but still if you are trying to promote a political agenda I don't think it makes sense to demean someone whose employer buys pixels by the barrel.
And whether or not you agree with their method, the news presenter's job is to attract and retain viewers.
And whether or not you agree
(in reply to Up Goose Creek)
Allegedly this is a working reporter, not a "presenter."
But bottom line is, Tamara's
But bottom line is, Tamara's as unlikely to ask for permission to tell her story the way she wants to as she is to give a damn what any of us think.
Which, in my view, makes this little corner of the world more interesting.
Tamara can post what she damn
(in reply to Bbeanster)
Tamara can post what she damn well pleases. And then expect the rest of us to do the same if we have a problem with what she posts.
Moseying back to the topic, for Sandra
Sandra, I'm still not sure if that citation I offered above is the one mandating strategic comp. There's so much in there, I'm having some trouble digesting it...
However, here is a page from the site of Education Resource Strategies (January 2014), whom you'll recall was subcontracted by The Parthenon Group to do the KCS "resource allocation."
Excerpt:
The page also explains that "The state has struck a balance between statewide reform and local control by mandating differentiated pay for all districts but creating flexible guidelines around design and implementation."
And the page links to "guidelines" at the State Board of Ed site, too, but I'm getting a "page not found" error there.
More for Sandra
Here is a news story on the topic (July 2013), written at The Tennessean and appearing in the archives at WBIR's site.
It references Michelle Rhee's Students First having lobbied the General Assembly heavily in 2012, prior to the new pay plan having been adopted in 2013.
Another excerpt, explaining the plan:
Scary thought..
Tamara is correct. When Tennessee took the Race to the Top money, they agreed to have laws that required compensation to teachers be tied to test scores. Knox County picked TEAM model as the evaluation tool and APEX as the compensation tool. The are lots of different programs and models that they could have picked. Each school system can pick the one that they want. Here is the scary thought. Our fearless leaders downtown and in Nashville have known that the Race to the Top money would run out, and they knew when, but no provisions were made for continuing funding. They did not tell teachers that the money would run out after last November. So, teachers were evaluated while thinking that they would get paid. The lead teachers evaluated while thinking that they would get paid. Then, surprise no money in the budget for this year's work. So, our fearless leader first decided to drop APEX bonuses and give a raise with money from the state. Then, he decided to give us bonuses and not a raise. So, now we will get both. What about next year? Is there a plan?
Putting a bow on it for Sandra
Okay, Sandra, I didn't have much time to look into this any further until late last night, but that statute I originally cited for you is the correct one, after all. I had been thrown because it seemed to lack specificity, but I found that it's further supported in guidelines at the State Board of Ed's site.
So here's how that portion of the statute relating to differented pay and dating to 2007 reads in full:
However, although differentiated pay had been the law since 2007, the State Board of Education (SBE) had never enforced it across all TN school districts due to a lack of state funding required for its implementation (see ARCC's study, Teacher Compensation Initiative: Literature Review, August 2014, pdf page 4).
As we know, in its 2010 First to the Top Act, in support of Tennessee's related Race to the Top (RttT) federal grant application, the legislature indicated its intention to better enforce differentiated pay across all Tennessee districts.
For the period 2010 through 2013, then, more districts (including KCS) came to offer differentiated pay plans, but the plans were still offered just sketchily and were reliant for their funding on RttT's various federal grant monies.
In June 2013, though, the State Board of Education passed a revised set of guidelines requiring all districts to create and implement differentiated pay plans for the 2014-15 school year just ended. As we know, KCS stayed with its APEX model.
One notable aspect in the SBE's new guidelines, though, is that "districts are required to differentiate pay for at least one element in addition to education and experience." That is, districts may offer additional compensation for teachers working in hard-to-staff schools OR teachers taking on additional roles/responsibilities OR teachers performing well per what remains a test-based teacher evaluation model, among some of the possible measures they may choose. They may also choose some combination of measures. It is not necessary, however, that districts' differentiated pay plans utilize ALL of these measures, as does the APEX model used to date by KCS (see same above link to SBE revised guidelines and click on "Sample Differentiated Pay Plan Table").
Interestingly, a Differentiated Pay Plan Summary also prepared by ARCC said that given these choices last school year, just one-third of districts therefore chose to include in their differentiated pay plans a measure of teachers' performance on Tennessee's test-based teacher evaluation model (see same above link to SBE revised guidelines and click on "Differentiated Pay Summary Report," pdf page 1).
What I don't know is what any KCS differentiated pay plan to have replaced APEX for the upcoming 2015-16 school year looked like, and specifically whether KCS has still chosen to include teachers' performance on test-based teacher evaluations as one or more measures to be utilized in its model--and it appears that the KCS plan has already been submitted to the SBE, given the June 30 deadline for districts to do so.
I’ve missed some BOE meetings/workshops over the last few months, but I’ve searched minutes for February through June online and I don’t see any BOE discussion of what differentiated pay plan to replace APEX Dr. McIntyre intended to submit to the SBE, so I don't know whether this BOE discussion/approval took place?
I've also searched the Knoxville News-Sentinel website for stories appearing in the last year and I don't see any mention of BOE discussion of what differentiated pay plan Dr. McIntyre intended to submit to the SBE. I used the terms "differentiated pay," "strategic compensation," and "APEX" as keywords in my searches. I found three stories relating to the budget, one relating to the most recent teacher survey results, and one relating to the most recent system strategic plan--but none to indicate what model would/has replaced APEX?
What I’m really wondering, of course, is whether Dr. McIntyre has possibly handled this differentiated pay plan submittal like he handled that last Broad contract, namely under the radar?
As you know, he did preview the original APEX plan with the BOE, what, four years back, just as he previously ran these Broad contracts past them.
And instruction at the SEC's site does indicate that the first step in the submittal process is that "local school boards are informed of and/or approve differentiated pay plans that will be submitted to TDOE" (see same above link to SBE revised guidelines and, under the heading "2015-16 Differentiated Pay Submission Process," click on "see this template for additional information")?
Well, maybe I didn't quite "put a bow on it," Sandra, but I didn't expect this question to arise in the course of my explaining how it is differentiated pay of some sort still has to be included in the KCS budget.
I'll invite anybody with an answer as to what model has apparently already been submitted to the SBE to please fill in Sandra and me, both.
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For the benefit of anyone absorbed in or distracted by a "subtopic conversation" in this thread, what I said up there is that a state law requiring differentiated pay has existed since 2007, it became uniformly enforced by the SBE in 2013, it is therefore a line-item for which KCS must budget going forward, districts' differentiated pay plans for the upcoming 2015 school year were due to the SBE on June 30, but it thus far appears that our local BOE was not given the opportunity to approve the plan submitted last week by KCS.
Do carry on.
How much?
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Tamara, Is there a requirement about the amount of differentiated pay? Or the percentage of teachers involved?
No and no
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
No, there is no requirement about the amount of differentiated pay. We can read an overview of the types of plans created for the 2014-15 school year at the DoE's site under the heading "2014-15 Plans" (click on "Differentiated Pay Summary Report").
And no, a percentage limit does not apply as to how many teachers may receive an award. In the Guidelines for Differentiated Pay Plans adopted on final reading at the June 21, 2013 SBE meeting, the text reads in part:
So
So a school board could toss $1K to teachers in hard-to-staff schools and call it a day -- instead of $3 million we're spending $100,000 or so.
Well......
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
That would be the Republican way.
That would be the Republican
(in reply to fischbobber)
No.
Obama and Arne Duncan are 100% supportive of these methods.
It's a bipartisan effort – see Rahm Emanuel's Chicago public school system.
That would be the Republican
(in reply to fischbobber)
No.
Obama and Arne Duncan are 100% supportive of these methods.
It's a bipartisan effort – see Rahm Emanuel's Chicago public school system.
Do you mean?
(in reply to Bbeanster)
Do you mean that Obama and Duncan are in favor of a merit pay system or the bait and switch tactic to slash salaries and churn the teaching workforce? Or both?
Rahm Emanuel is why I'm skeptical about Hillary. I don't like politicians owing corporate masters.
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(in reply to fischbobber)
Where've you been, Bob? They're in favor of both. That stuff was at the heart of Race to the Top.
Agreed that Rahm Emanuel = Hillary Clinton.
But we're about to create one too many "subtopic conversations" within this thread supposedly about Burchett's MOU and the problems within it (including this mistaken assumption, to my understanding, about APEX bonuses).
Information request
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Just sent the following information request to Melissa Ogden at KCS (which of course she won't see until Monday and which under law she has days beyond that in which to respond). I'll let you know what I learn.
help!
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
from the MOU:
"Knox County will pay Knox County Schools $3 million on or after November 24, 2016 for the purpose of a one-time planned APEX bonus for teachers which shall free up recurring revenue to enable teachers to receive a raise of approximately 2 percent. This one-time payment will be treated as a transfer, which by definition, is not a component included in Maintenance of Effort. This will be in addition to $1 million of cuts Knox County Schools will make, which amount will be contributed to the raise."
Did the taxpayers get ripped off here? Was the law broken? I don't understand this thread at all.
The issue
(in reply to retired and angry)
I think we're struggling with recurring strategic compensation. As you point out, the MOU calls it one-time ... but Tamara is citing state law and state BOE policy that make it clear that strategic compensation -- or differentiated pay is required. But the BOE sets the limits/rules.
If anyone was "ripped off" by the MOU it was the KCS. Burchett was a huge winner; Jim McIntyre and the board majority gave up a lot for a 2 percent raise for teachers and "one-time" APEX bonuses.
Perhaps the biggest win for Burchett was the BOE backing off its construction standards for the two middle schools. Burchett was boxed in on Carter Elementary with construction costs dictated by the BOE standards. Now Burchett is planning to design-build these schools to state standards -- and demonstrate over-spending, wasteful-spending, whatever you choose to call it.
I suspect he's convinced a couple of people that there will be enough money "left over" for capital projects in their districts. And he may be right.
Pay differential
Can you all explain your objections to paying more to teachers in "hard to staff" schools.
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(in reply to Up Goose Creek)
I don't have any objection to paying more to teachers in "hard to staff" schools, Goose--although I do wish our approach to residential construction made affordable housing more widely available, so that we don't even produce these neighborhoods spawning "hard to staff" schools. Seems like we're content to treat the symptom, rather than the disease?
I am curious to know, if KCS abandoned the APEX model in June, whether Mac submitted a replacement model still incorporating "pay for performance."
The objection I would have to that is that 1) it isn't necessary under SBE guidelines to offer any differential on that basis, and 2) if we have offered a differential on that basis, a determination of teachers' "performance" remains reliant on this broken test-based teacher evaluation model we employ in TN.
Afterthought on "hard to staff" schools
Did you see Sandra Clark's mention in this week's Shopper about the furor in Farragut over a proposed apartment complex?
This is how Farragut Intermediate maintains a Free and Reduced Meal population of just 19.3%--and precludes any "hard to staff" schools on its turf--relative to a F&RM population of 86% at Norwood Elementary, which community probably has more apartments than any school zone in the county.
There's a reason I keep referring to our local do-gooders as the "reformers from afar." Too many "Farragutians" in that bunch to take them very seriously.
After spending
one afternoon a week at Sarah Moore Greene (with our newspaper club this past year) I think all teachers should make double and those teachers should make double that.
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(in reply to Sandra Clark)
For the short term, sure, but I'm more interested in addressing the root problem, namely housing segregation.
And lest anybody forget, the "Farragutions" are also responsible for having produced those 1200 empty seats that really exist at HVA (although they're not readily apparent for HVA having "borrowed" long term those 969 kids from my community's Karns HIgh to mask HVA's underutilization). The "Farragutians" wouldn't move into HVA, you'll recall, asking that KCS instead treat their incorporated township like a Special School District for zoning purposes, which it isn't.
So there sits Farragut High today, with hundreds of its students still cooped up in eight portable classrooms, even as HVA masquerades at being "full," even as Karns High's gaping 900 empty seat wound goes largely undetected, even as taxpayers make debt service payments on that $54M expenditure for years to come, and even as the Town of Farragut coughs up the state minimum 50% of every local option sales tax dollar, relative to the City of Knoxville's more generous 72% of every such tax dollar, in aid of the west end's greed and self-absorption.
THAT is the high cost of the "Farragutians" and their "reformers" to this town, any stipends to teachers in "hard to staff" schools being a cost they impose on us beyond just these others.
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What Sandra said. Every word of it.
Retired, Burchett has drafted this MOU to give the appearance that because the APEX strategic comp model is/will be abandoned, KCS won't have any more strategic comp/differentiated pay costs, and that KCS can therefore cover teacher raises with this "found" $$$. That's not true. KCS *will* have more strategic comp/differentiated pay costs, but now KCS will have to scramble to find the $$$ to cover them, or else reduce the size of its bonuses. And KCS will have to reduce this cost because Burchett is limiting their future budget monies in so many other ways. Bottom line is that it was a way sucky deal for KCS.
As for the ridiculous statements made by some BOE members to the effect that they "liked the increased fiscal responsibility inherent in the MOU," turning over to another elected official (like the mayor) one's fiscal authority under state law is NOT increasing fiscal responsibility. It's abdicating that responsibility altogether.
Increased fiscal responsibility on the BOE has to come from within, not from without.
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And my comments above address just the KCS operating budget.
As to the KCS capital budget, how are they going to address building those schools they DO need to build when all their funding is tied up in building these two schools they DO NOT need to build?
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More on the MOU's possible impact to KCS: The situation now is that KCS pays rent for its space in the AJ. The MOU doesn't say whether the county or KCS will carry the debt service on its any new facility required to move KCS out of the AJ.
If KCS acquires some new facility it owns, that may be another chunk out of its capital budget. If KCS acquires rental space elsewhere, that's definitely another chunk out of its operating budget.
Either way, KCS could well begin assuming a higher cost to house its Central Office. They didn't make any agreement to keep that cost comparable to what it is now.
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(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Do you think the KCS staff will end up in leftover space at Cedar Bluff? I'm wondering if the county isn't subtly moving its offices west.
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(in reply to fischbobber)
No, I really expect that Knox County will make them close Carter Middle and renovate it as their Central Office, per one of the scenarios outlined in the Middle School Demand Analysis. That's the only way I see that Knox County can justify pulling $56M from its fund balance for this boondoggle.
One county commissioner has already told me that's what he wants done. He's also told me he intends to exhume the Midway industrial park project.
Knox County isn't coughing up this kind of dough without reason.
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(in reply to fischbobber)
And there isn't room enough at the former Cedar Bluff Intermediate to house Central Office, anyway.
Central Office is occupying 17 floors in the AJ Building.
My guess
(in reply to fischbobber)
is that KCS will close Vine Middle, rezone those kids to Holston to replace some of the kids rezoned to Gibbs Middle and life goes on. Vine makes a better Central Office choice than Carter Middle for several reasons -- it's centrally located with free parking, on bus line, has a gym for lunchtime workouts, etc.
Heck, KCS could probably move to Vine now without waiting for Gibbs Middle to be built. The building is that underutilized.
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(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Except that closing Carter Middle can repopulate AND reintegrate Vine Middle and Holston Middle, both.
Can't see Mac allowing Vine to die and Holston to become an all-black school? Especially if commission doesn't want that, either?
I think East Knox County will pay, not the central city.
Closing Carter Middle just
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Closing Carter Middle just shifts the argument from Gibbs needing a middle school to Carter needing one. Don't see that happening. I think Sandra has this one called correctly.
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(in reply to Rachel)
Gibbs didn't need a middle school--and County Commission knows it.
All the data indicate that East Knox County can't support that many middle schools.
OMG. I agree. But that
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
OMG. I agree. But that horse has left the barn.
Will the BOE move the central offices to the eastern edge of the county and create another community bitching about how far their middle school kids are bussed? Not bloody likely.
Sandra's solution makes far more sense, given the political realities.
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(in reply to Rachel)
Who knows. I've heard from just this one commissioner who wants Carter closed, Midway up and running, and that end of the county generating some tax revenues, he says.
But if Sandra is right, I hope you're down at County Commission fighting it with me.
Closing Vine, making Holston an all-black school, and imposing this on a densely populated community that pays county and city taxes, both, would be a grave injustice, I think.
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(in reply to Sandra Clark)
Is there the realistic possibility that the central office will be decentralized, that staff will be split into several different buildings?
Don't think so
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Splitting Central Office staff is not efficient -- neither is moving it to Carter.
I'm not advocating closing Vine, just predicting that is the likely outcome for the reasons Rachel stated.
Principals having a five-year contract with termination for cause ... and autonomy to run their schools within a budget would be the best thing that could happen to KCS. Nobody has time to gain traction before they're shuffled off to someplace else.
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Terry Hill mentioned this in the work session Monday night, suggesting that the two middle schools might possibly come in at less than the $56M budgeted for them collectively. She said any excess could then be applied to construction of a new Northcentral--her reference apparently being to this lesser "state standard" Burchett intends to apply.
You know my beef with that suggestion. I object that we're building these two projects at all, at any cost. And I *certainly* object that we're building them before we're building other projects that clearly should be our priorities.
Old South High, with some
Old South High, with some restoration and build out would be a great location, geographically.
But, 17 floors of the AJ building sounds like a lot of space. How many sq feet is that?
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(in reply to R. Neal)
Don't know the answer to that one.
A woman who popped up on my FB page last week said she's a tech employee for KCS and that her peeps are scattered all over the county, wherever KCS can find a broom closet for 'em.
KCS would like to house her peeps with Central Office staff, too, she said.
It's sounding like they need a lot of space?
The AJ Building
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Is approx 130 ft on a side. Assuming about 80% of that is useable space (probably lots of stair wells, bad layout, etc), 17 floors comes to about 200,000 square feet.
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(in reply to reform4)
Thanks, Steve. I just looked up (on an Excel spreadsheet I have from the KCS Facilities Department) the square footage inside the main buildings at both Carter Middle and Vine Middle.
Carter Middle is 95,000 square feet.
Vine Middle is 112,000 square feet.
Looks like relocating the Central Office to either of these two schools would require significant build-out, and especially so if the school system seeks to consolidate its technical people into Central Office quarters, too.
Assuming...
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
assuming they actually NEED 200,000 square feet.
How many employees does the Central Office have?
200? I assume that's a high guess.
That's 1000 square feet per employee. We have 10 employees in about 3300 square feet, including lab space, production, small warehouse, conference room, and breakroom with dining area.
Vine or Carter should be sufficient for 200 employees easily at 500 SF each.
More number crunching
(in reply to reform4)
What I can try to guess at from the budget:
Super's office: 4
Business Office: approx 12 to 15
Warehouse: 2-3
HR: 10 to 15
Benefits Div: 6 ish
Tech: 40 to 50.
Public Affairs: 5 ish
Office of Accountability: 6-8
Transportation: 1
I assume security, custodial, and maint not in AJ? Maybe 10 supervisory?
So, maybe 110 at the central office? Certainly less than 200.
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(in reply to reform4)
I suspect that estimate is much too low.
At the KCS site, their Departments Directory lists 65 departments, if I counted correctly, and I think they're all in the AJ. Yes, security and maintenance are also located in the AJ.
Maintenance is a large department, what with workers in the field tending 100 school facilities. That department also oversees multiple warehouse locations, as well as the district's purchasing department.
By "business office," if you are including accounting functions I suspect it's far larger than 12 or 15 people. The school system has over 7,000 employees, after all, and has a great deal of interaction with state and federal authorities, too.
If each of these 65-ish departments had just three employees (and I suspect most have more than that) Central Office would have around 200 employees total. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Central Office has more like 300 total, though.
Not really "Departments"
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
That's more of a web site map than a real list of Departments.
Forms?
Partners in Education?
I just went to the budget and tried to estimate from likely salary ranges, but if maint and security is included.. then again, MOST of those maint and security personnel should be in the schools doing the work, with just supervisors and managers in AJ, correct? I'm hoping every janitor and every security guard in each school doesn't also have an unused cubicle in the AJ building just in case....
I'm thinking of people who would physically be in the AJ building, not just headcount including field personnel.
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(in reply to reform4)
Concerning your guess that the Super's office employs four, the Super's page at the KCS site indicates his "executive team" and "leadership team" combined total 32 people.
These 32 people include the system's Assistant Superintendents and Executive Directors, but none of its departmental directors.
Presumably, all these chiefs have some indians...
The Super's office
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Just included himself, secretary, chief of staff, and one other.
Some of the people on that page were in other groups I listed, like Business office, public affairs, HR.
I didn't see an obvious curriculum department listed in the budget along with the other central office, so I may need to look again there.
Note: KCS has a total of about 8300 employees, so the 'overhead' may be well over 200, sure, but again, not sure how many are in the AJ building vs. field overhead.
Other possible items:
(in reply to reform4)
Special Ed support- might be in AJ. $5.6M payroll before benefits, so that's a good number of people, if they have offices in AJ as well...
Family/Community Engagement: 2-3
Attendance/Social Workers: probably a good 20 to 30 there.
Health Services: in AJ? 30.
Transfers: 5-7
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(in reply to reform4)
Partners in Education solicits the business community for support of various sorts. To my knowledge, that's still Scott Bacon (for the last 15 years plus). Don't know how many worker bees he has.
Your above count for the Transportation Department, "one," I know is too low. Department head Dr. Rick Grubb has staff of some size--and probably more in recent years. Recall that under NCLB, the department is now running oodles of vans and other passenger vehicles transporting kids in just twos and threes to schools outside their zoned schools, this option being one available to kids in so-called "failing schools." I know Rick's department also tracks school zoning and advises administration and the BOE on that topic, too. There's lots of work there beyond just that performed by those subcontracted bus drivers.
Scott Bacon took early
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Scott Bacon took early retirement. His choice. I think he's with the Boys & Girl's Club now.
AJ Building
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
Would all those people have offices in the AJ building?
I think the conversation is leaving the original sub-thread. I'm not trying to get a Central Office total headcount at all.
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(in reply to reform4)
BTW, that reference to KCS using 17 floors at the AJ is anecdotal, not documented somewhere by KCS or anybody else, to my knowledge.
Burchett said that to media. Specifically, he said KCS used to house Central Office on one floor in the C/C Building and now they're spread across 17 floors at the AJ.
It's a point worth confirming authoritatively, I suppose.
It would be deeply ironic if
(in reply to R. Neal)
It would be deeply ironic if the school system ended up with South High. Talking about closing a circle.
Magnolia revitalization
I don't know if the city has any input but having all those workers at Vine could boost Magnolia revitalization. That stretch of highway really is a fast food desert or "any kind of prepared food" desert since Scruggs BBQ closed.
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Am I the only person in this conversation who's mortified to think Knox County might still be trying to integrate its public schools 60 or 65 years after Brown v. Board of Education?
No, you're not.
(in reply to Tamara Shepherd)
But, frankly, now I'm at the point of trying to figure out if the principals involved in running our education system are evil geniuses or absolutely clueless. Sometimes it's hard to tell.
Mortified?
I'm not mortified that Knox county is trying to integrate its public schools. I'm just sad when integration efforts lead to white flight.
Did you guys know there are white kids attending Vine Middle? From the magnet program and walking in from Parkridge. It may seem like a good revitalization ploy to turn it into an employment center but on second thought the Vine community and PTA might feel differently.
OTOH Standard Knitting Mills is just sitting there vacant.....
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(in reply to Up Goose Creek)
You ignored my operative word "still" and you lobbed off the end of my sentence that said "60 or 65 years after Brown v. Board of Education."
I can't guess what commissioners beyond this one I talked to want to see happen, but closing Vine and sending its 80% black student population to Holston, even as Holston's predominately white rural East Knox County student population is packing it up to return to Gibbs, does not constitute any effort to integrate.
Holston
It was just Sandra's conjecture they would be all sent to Holston, that didn't come from the administration.
If, and it's a big if, Vine were to be closed the kids would be spread among Holston, South Doyle, Whittle Springs and perhaps Bearden.
Is it sad that Knox County is dealing with integration in 2015 - yes. I was reacting to your use of "mortified". And wondering about your reaction were you to visit Memphis.
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(in reply to Up Goose Creek)
Oh, it's sad that we have six new Special School Districts in the suburbs of Shelby County, too.
Just looked up the student demographic at Gibbs Elementary. It's 94% white (2014 State Report Card). Knox County is 74% white, it says.
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I went ahead and looked up (at the 2014 State Report Card) last night the percentages of white students at all of our East Knox County elementary schools, these percentages still relative to that Knox County average of 74% white:
Gibbs Elementary, 93.8%
Carter Elementary, 93.1%
Corryton Elementary, 92.5%
East Knox Elementary, 92.5%
Halls Elementary, 90.2%
Only Ritta Elementary, closest to town, has a percentage of white students lower than 90%, at 70.8%.
I do appreciate Gloria Deathridge's concern for resegregation.
other people
are housed in the AJ -- pre-trial release, I think, and maybe PBA.
There are several county
(in reply to Sandra Clark)
There are several county offices in the AJ bldg. Probation and Pretrial Services for sure.
Maintenance
The schools have a large maintenance building located north of Magnolia, beside the RR tracks and near Hall of Fame.