Thu
May 10 2007
08:23 am
The KNS has an update on their lawsuit involving alleged sunshine law violations that occurred during the appointment process to replace term-limited county commissioners.
KNS editor Jack McElroy, the plaintiff, was asked if he had any personal knowledge of deliberations taking place outside public view. He responded with this interesting timeline (PDF format), which is the basis of the complaint. Here's a sampling:
During the same recess, reporter Ferrar observed a gathering that included Commissioners Moore and Lambert, as well as Tramel. When Commissioner Schmid noticed the gathering. he said: "They’re trying to sneak in Richard Cate behind my back. They’re trying to swear in Richard Cate. They’re trying to get my vote out." A short while later, reporter Barker went to the area in front of the Small Assembly Room, where Judge Wheeler Rosenbalm, in his robes and carrying a Bible, stood near Richard Cate. Schmid, Lambert, Tramel and Cate were arguing. Rosenbalm was preparing to swear in Cate, although commissioners had agreed earlier to hold off on swearing in the new appointees until 2 p.m. "If you want to keep that spot in '08, you better not do this," Schmid yelled at Cate. Cate eventually replied angrily, "Don’t accuse me of that any more." Tramel told Schmid he was a "part-time" commissioner. "You’re never here for committee meetings,” he said. Schmid turned to Barker and said, "Let’s call a spade a spade. They’re wanting to get my vote out so they can get Lee Tramel in." Lambert angrily called Schmid a "peckerhead." Later, Schmid added, "This is typical of the way these people operate." Cate, who chose not to take the oath of office, said someone in the back of the Main Assembly Room had suggested he take the oath of office early. "I don’t even know who it was." Photographer Cary observed and photographed a portion of the gathering involving Schmid, Lambert and Cate.
The timeline also discusses the details of Jonathan Wimmer's claim that he was offered a deal by Lumpy Lambert if he would agree to be sworn in and vote for Tramel.
|
|
Discussing:
- Are Chat bots a waste of time? (1 reply)
- Smith & Wesson noise problem (1 reply)
- Musicians dropping out of President's Freedom Concert Series (1 reply)
- It's time for new blood in Congress, Barnett in - Burchett out (1 reply)
- Burning Down The House... (2 replies)
- Behind Lege Lies (1 reply)
- Peace (1 reply)
- Speak your truth, fight and believe. (1 reply)
- Large banks have too much AI data center debt? (1 reply)
- GOP misleading on federal health care funding (1 reply)
- Feds indict civil rights group (3 replies)
- Georgia issues burn ban, first time in state history (2 replies)
TN Progressive
- Smith & Wesson not a good fit for Blount County (BlountViews)
- Pellissippi Parkway extension delayed again (BlountViews)
- Blount County early voting record turnout (BlountViews)
- Louisville, TN, town center coming soon? (BlountViews)
- WATCH THIS SPACE. (Left Wing Cracker)
- America As It Is Right Now (RoaneViews)
- A friend sent this: From Captain McElwee's Tall Tales of Roane County (RoaneViews)
- The Meidas Touch (RoaneViews)
- Massive Security Breach Analysis (RoaneViews)
- (Whitescreek Journal)
- My choices in the August election (Left Wing Cracker)
- July 4, 2024 - aka The Twilight Zone (Joe Powell)
TN Politics
- Judge allows UFC cage matches to go ahead on White House lawn (TN Lookout)
- Stockard on the Stump: Tennessee keeping intensive probation program alive – barely (TN Lookout)
- Tennessee waste task force eyes changes to law allowing local rejection of landfills (TN Lookout)
- Nearly half of adults struggled to afford healthcare last year, survey finds (TN Lookout)
- Trump says ‘great settlement’ of Iran war in the works, signing ceremony soon (TN Lookout)
- ‘The Dumocrats are at it again’: Trump attack on California election offers midterm preview (TN Lookout)
Knox TN Today
- PAT the play returns to the stage in June (Knox TN Today)
- Easy Bacon & Swiss Quiche: Breakfast meal prep (Knox TN Today)
- Grayson boosts Ijams + In memoriam: Nic Arning, Bob Monday (Knox TN Today)
- Meet Slinky: The adventure buddy you’ve been wanting (Knox TN Today)
- Dining Duo goes to Vandergriff’s (Knox TN Today)
- Zoo Knoxville introduces Summer Concert Series (Knox TN Today)
- Food City named 2026 Retailer of the Year (Knox TN Today)
- 6/12 HEADLINES: News and events from Knox, World, USA, Tennessee & Historic Notes (Knox TN Today)
- Close to Home, Far from Ordinary: Townsend, TN, Ranks #9 destination on one tank of gas (Knox TN Today)
- Hiking with Harrington: Big Creek Trail (Knox TN Today)
- Falling Water Branch Falls: A 2020 Visit, Helene’s scars, and three new waterfalls (Knox TN Today)
- Lily in Red (Knox TN Today)
Local TV News
- How drones helped first responders get eyes on Morgan County train derailment (WATE)
- Unexpected rock issues push Alcoa Highway project end date, frustrating drivers (WATE)
- Woman charged after toddler left alone in car at Knoxville Walmart (WATE)
- Nonprofit brings veterans to Pigeon Forge for camaraderie and healing (WATE)
- Woman convicted in 1995 Knoxville murder challenging constitutionality of lethal injection (WATE)
- Unoccupied SUV crashes into Hamblen County home, displacing family (WATE)
News Sentinel
State News
- Healthcare dominates conversation with Republican primary opponents for Tennessee House - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- After Bonnaroo 2025 was a loss, organizers hoping for win in 2026 - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Rock City gondola rejected by Lookout Mountain planners - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
- Internet thinks World Cup team in Chattanooga is ‘hilarious.’ Local leaders don’t think so - Chattanooga Times Free Press (Times Free Press)
Wire Reports
- One dead, 22 injured in Moneta tent collapse: Officials - WSET (US News)
- Elon Musk becomes the first trillionaire as SpaceX soars in its market debut - The Washington Post (Business)
- Courts deny last-ditch Kennedy Center bid to delay removing Trump’s name - The Washington Post (US News)
- Trump says U.S. killed Tren de Aragua leader in airstrike in Venezuela - CBS News (US News)
- Scoop: Trump admin blocks foreign access to Anthropic's most powerful AI - Axios (Business)
- Iran peace deal looms while new military action flares near Strait of Hormuz - Reuters (US News)
- Judge orders Trump officials to re-install signs and exhibits at national parks on topics like slavery and climate change - NBC News (US News)
- Justice Dept. Clears Way for Paramount-Warner Bros. Merger - The New York Times (Business)
- Trump's GOP allies draw a line in the sand on Iran - Politico (US News)
- Elon Musk's stratospheric rise to trillionaire status - in charts - BBC (Business)
- Despite Trump Claims, Spencer Pratt Seems to Accept L.A. Mayor Results - The New York Times (US News)
- Stock Market Today: Dow Ends Higher On Iran Deal Hopes; SpaceX Rockets 19% In Debut - Investor's Business Daily (Business)
- 1 killed, 10 hurt in mass shooting in Midland, Texas; suspect also dead - ABC7 Los Angeles (US News)
- Former SpaceX welder becomes a millionaire after historic IPO - CBS News (Business)
- He's Been Quietly Amassing SpaceX Stock for 15 Years - Newser (Business)
Local Media
Lost Medicaid Funding
To date, the failure to expand Medicaid/TennCare has cost the State of Tennessee ? in lost federal funding. (Source)
Search and Archives
TN Progressive
Nearby:
- Blount Dems
- Herston TN Family Law
- Inside of Knoxville
- Instapundit
- Jack Lail
- Jim Stovall
- Knox Dems
- MoxCarm Blue Streak
- Outdoor Knoxville
- Pittman Properties
- Reality Me
- Stop Alcoa Parkway
Beyond:
- Nashville Scene
- Nashville Post
- Smart City Memphis
- TN Dems
- TN Journal
- TN Lookout
- Bob Stepno
- Facing South

ooooooh....this is juicy.
ooooooh....this is juicy. It's like Desperate Housewives, Dynasty and Dukes of Hazard rolled into one. I can't hardly wait for this one.
Or the Tiwanees legislative
Or the Tiwanees legislative body without the fistfights.
the void
KNS should make a point of the lack of discussion and deliberation during the Jan 31 meeting. If the commissioners claim they were not discussing or deliberating appointments during the face-to-face and phone conversations during which appointments were discussed, then when did they discuss and deliberate? It certainly wasn't during the public meeting.
Also, the letter signed by twelve commissioners sent to Law Director John Owings asking him to withdraw his challenge to the one-man annexation referendum seems like plain evidence of a Sunshine Law violation. Why not add that to the lawsuit?
Sunshine Law clarification
If Mayor Ragsdale calls a commissioner at his home and asks if he/she will add his/her name to a letter to the law director requesting him to withdraw the challenge to that one-man annexation (county sueing the county suit, once again), how is that a violation of the Sunshine Law?
It clearly states it is a deliberation (and such) of members of the same governmental body, not a County Mayor and a Commissioner. If indeed the commissioners talked among themselves before agreeing to sign it, that would be a violation.
Rags who?
According to reports at the time, it was Ivan Harmon, not Ragsdale, peddling that letter around. What use would Ragsdale have with collecting signatures from commissioners? He can make his request to the law director directly. Ragsdale has nothing to do with it, and I'm even sure why you're injecting him in to the situation.
In any case, the letter was clearly intended to substitute for a majority vote of the commission, yet there was no actual vote and no public discussion of the matter. In fact, at the meeting at which it could have been voted on in a timely manner, the expected resolution was never introduced. Once again, we have a void to explain how the commission arrived at its decision.
Also, it's not county vs. county as you seem to imply. It's county vs. city. The county invested a couple million in infrastructure improvements for that development, thinking it would be repaid in future tax collections, but those tax revenues will now go to the city.